Avmiss public release - Page 3

**x After Dawn x** · 04-9-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice wolf

We can at least expect it to be bug-free.

I wouldn't count on it.

**Bynary Fission** · 04-9-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by s0ulst0n3

I'm pretty sure you can't average-miss in CIA Rave, you probably didn't push down the key hard enough or something.

I never liked the auto-fail, speed mods, or average miss fix idea. Kinda ruined FFR and made it easy.

Okay, I admit it. I love auto-fail. BUT THAT'S ALL!

Actually, it is. I noticed that if you hit it late, then you get an average miss on a 5/6 framer, or something...seems stupid but that's what I noticed. And I got them anyways....or I could be wrong, but I got it several times, I'm confident it was an average-miss.

Oh, and yeah it wasn't smart for Tass to say it'd be out on X day or range of days. Then, the longer you wait afterwards the more complaints you get. At least they're (the complaints) more stable if you don't give an exact date...

~Bynary Fission

**Bluearrowll** · 04-9-2008, 08:09 PM

On a 5/6 framer if you let most of the arrow pass, but if you normally hit it where an 'average' should be (at the very end of the arrow) it's still possible to AV-MISS, hitting the 2nd arrow and missing the first.

**x After Dawn x** · 04-9-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluearrowll

On a 5/6 framer if you let most of the arrow pass, but if you normally hit it where an 'average' should be (at the very end of the arrow) it's still possible to AV-MISS, hitting the 2nd arrow and missing the first.

You can't hit a late average, you can only hit a late good.

**Bynary Fission** · 04-9-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by x After Dawn x

You can't hit a late average, you can only hit a late good.

He means hitting the second arrow early enough to get an average while missing the arrow above it.

~Bynary Fission

**Frozen Beat** · 04-9-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilly G

CIA Rave has jacks? Doesn't it have 5-framers? =.= Or 6? xD

I don't think it has any. Sorry.

Gah, so mad, I got 1 good on CIA Rave xD.

**s0ulst0n3** · 04-10-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bynary Fission

Actually, it is. I noticed that if you hit it late, then you get an average miss on a 5/6 framer, or something...seems stupid but that's what I noticed. And I got them anyways....or I could be wrong, but I got it several times, I'm confident it was an average-miss.

Uh, no. I'm almost positive the only framers you can average-miss on are 4 framers, 3 framers, 2 framers, 1 framers and obviously 0 framers. I tried to average miss on a 5/6 framer and I didn't. Even if you could ... CIA Rave is way too easy to be complaining about average misses on it, lol.

**Redorigami** · 04-10-2008, 07:50 AM

I love how this thread go jacked. It should be renamed or something because it has nothing to do with the avmiss fix anymore. PS CIA Rave avmisses? If you avmiss on CIA Rave you either happened to get misses and averages equal that weren't from avmisses, or you suck so hardcore that the computer decided to do the impossible. Like UBER SUCKFEST required for that.

GamerShadow · 04-10-2008, 08:20 AM

lol There are no framers in CIA Rave. There are no 16th jacks in CIA Rave. Thus, there are no framers.

**HammyMcSquirrel** · 04-10-2008, 08:30 AM

This was back when Blue Noah was released.
TasselFoot: added
TasselFoot: 0 4-framers
HammyMcSquirrel: Good.

TasselFoot: ****. missed.
HammyMcSquirrel: Trying it out, now.
HammyMcSquirrel: Wtf, 5:35.
TasselFoot: ****
TasselFoot: 11-0-0-2
HammyMcSquirrel: I avgmissed. What the heck. I'm pretty sure that was an avgmiss.
TasselFoot: 5-framers can have avmisses.
TasselFoot: they just happen when you get a good.
TasselFoot: instead of in the perfect window
HammyMcSquirrel: Oh, damn, haha.
TasselFoot: nobody thinks about that.
TasselFoot: but, definitely true.
TasselFoot: it's how you get avmisses on songs with 0 4-framers

I also recall Ravia telling me he avgmissed on a 6-framer while playing BB Revenge, haha. I'm not sure if that has happened to me, though.

Edit: Basically clarifying what Bluearrowll said by showing that Tass said it.

**jimerax** · 04-10-2008, 10:47 AM

5-framers appear in songs w/ 151-180bpm 8th jacks, where you still can get av-misses by hitting late goods.

also 6-framers (129-150 bpm 8th jacks) can cause avmisses, but they're just hard to get.

**rushyrulz** · 04-10-2008, 03:44 PM

Hopefully this fix happens soon. I got an avgmiss on frickin F. Vista was the main contributor to flash lag-induced avmiss action!

**nev670** · 04-11-2008, 12:55 PM

i wanna AAA more songs NAO !!! D:

Erik542 · 04-12-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprite-

Maybe Synth wanted the glitch to make it different from Stepmania. You don't know... Maybe it was the way the game was supposed to run until people complained uncontrollably about it :P

If only these forums had the banghead smiley. IIRC, FFR was intended to be a straight copy of DDR. Though obviously it did not come out right and was missing some notable features such as stops and holds. However, the avmiss glitch was discovered by Shashakiro sometime in either '05 or '06 if memory serves calling the framers "fast" and "superfast" notes. It is impossible to know whether or not avmiss was intentional; although the wording of the occasional vague updating of "we're working on it" suggested that the glitch was deeply nested in the code implying that it was not planted there.

**jimerax** · 04-12-2008, 01:30 PM

I think there were some rhythm games that have avmisses other than FFR.

Sa Li El · 04-12-2008, 04:51 PM

Really?! Wow, that's really interesting. Any professionally released? I'd like to know which ones if you can maybe remember, just out of curiosity.

XUioX · 04-12-2008, 05:19 PM

i got avmiss on blue army.. that pisses me off. even though i have the skills to fc it, i cant because of avmiss

**Frozen Beat** · 04-12-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by x After Dawn x

I wouldn't count on it.

Just like whne the new layout came out

**Sprite-** · 04-12-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik542

If only these forums had the banghead smiley. IIRC, FFR was intended to be a straight copy of DDR. Though obviously it did not come out right and was missing some notable features such as stops and holds. However, the avmiss glitch was discovered by Shashakiro sometime in either '05 or '06 if memory serves calling the framers "fast" and "superfast" notes. It is impossible to know whether or not avmiss was intentional; although the wording of the occasional vague updating of "we're working on it" suggested that the glitch was deeply nested in the code implying that it was not planted there.

lol i was obviously joking

**smartdude1212** · 04-13-2008, 04:32 AM

Let's start swapping mothers.

04-9-2008, 08:09 PM	#43
Bluearrowll ⊙▃⊙ Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I live in the last place where you Look. Age: 31 Posts: 7,376	Re: Avmiss public release On a 5/6 framer if you let most of the arrow pass, but if you normally hit it where an 'average' should be (at the very end of the arrow) it's still possible to AV-MISS, hitting the 2nd arrow and missing the first. __________________ 1st in Kommisar's 2009 SM Tournament 1st in I Love You`s 2009 New Year`s Tournament 3rd in EnR's Mashfest '08 tournament 5th in Phynx's Unofficial FFR Tournament 9th in D3 of the 2008-2009 4th Official FFR Tournament 10th in D5 of the 2010 5th Official FFR Tournament 10th in D6 of the 2011-2012 6th Official FFR Tournament FMO AAA Count: 71 FGO AAA Count: 10 Bluearrowll = The Canadian player who can not detect awkward patterns. If it's awkward for most people, it's normal for Terry. If the file is difficult but super straight forward, he has issues. If he's AAAing a FGO but then heard that his favorite Hockey team was losing by a point, Hockey > FFR PS: Cool AAA's Terry - I Love You An Alarm Clock's Haiku beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep - ieatyourlvllol Last edited by Bluearrowll; 04-9-2008 at 08:13 PM.. Reason: Typo.

04-10-2008, 08:20 AM	#49
GamerShadow FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In my Dungeon Age: 32 Posts: 2,534	Re: Avmiss public release lol There are no framers in CIA Rave. There are no 16th jacks in CIA Rave. Thus, there are no framers. __________________ Note to self Finish.

04-10-2008, 08:30 AM	#50
HammyMcSquirrel Everlong Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Age: 35 Posts: 3,833	Re: Avmiss public release This was back when Blue Noah was released. TasselFoot: added TasselFoot: 0 4-framers HammyMcSquirrel: Good. TasselFoot: **. missed. HammyMcSquirrel: Trying it out, now. HammyMcSquirrel: Wtf, 5:35. TasselFoot: ** TasselFoot: 11-0-0-2 HammyMcSquirrel: I avgmissed. What the heck. I'm pretty sure that was an avgmiss. TasselFoot: 5-framers can have avmisses. TasselFoot: they just happen when you get a good. TasselFoot: instead of in the perfect window HammyMcSquirrel: Oh, damn, haha. TasselFoot: nobody thinks about that. TasselFoot: but, definitely true. TasselFoot: it's how you get avmisses on songs with 0 4-framers I also recall Ravia telling me he avgmissed on a 6-framer while playing BB Revenge, haha. I'm not sure if that has happened to me, though. Edit: Basically clarifying what Bluearrowll said by showing that Tass said it. Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 04-10-2008 at 08:33 AM..

04-10-2008, 10:47 AM	#51
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Avmiss public release 5-framers appear in songs w/ 151-180bpm 8th jacks, where you still can get av-misses by hitting late goods. also 6-framers (129-150 bpm 8th jacks) can cause avmisses, but they're just hard to get.

04-10-2008, 03:44 PM	#52
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,982	Re: Avmiss public release Hopefully this fix happens soon. I got an avgmiss on frickin F. Vista was the main contributor to flash lag-induced avmiss action! __________________

04-11-2008, 12:55 PM	#53
nev670 FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Age: 31 Posts: 452	Re: Avmiss public release i wanna AAA more songs NAO !!! D: __________________ Click >>><<<Click Avg Rank: 174 AAA: 40% FC: 99% nev670 & SnS ^_^ ! This video is Dedicated to Tasselfoot Jason Key's Best Friend

04-12-2008, 01:30 PM	#55
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Avmiss public release I think there were some rhythm games that have avmisses other than FFR.

04-12-2008, 04:51 PM	#56
Sa Li El FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 81	Re: Avmiss public release Really?! Wow, that's really interesting. Any professionally released? I'd like to know which ones if you can maybe remember, just out of curiosity.

04-12-2008, 05:19 PM	#57
XUioX FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Connecticut USA Age: 30 Posts: 787	Re: Avmiss public release i got avmiss on blue army.. that pisses me off. even though i have the skills to fc it, i cant because of avmiss

04-13-2008, 04:32 AM	#60
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Avmiss public release Let's start swapping mothers.

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