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Old 03-12-2008, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default pitch relevancy

Okay, this is one of the hardest things in the universe to figure out in a sim.

How the heck do you do pitch relevancy? Is there some tool or something? Why is it so hard to figure out? Or do you just listen carefully?

If I can do that correctly, another problem comes. What's compression? I read Arch's review for Blurk's Flashman, and it says something about compression, am I right? How do you compress 9+ different pitches into 4 notes?

Lastly, what defines pitch? Is pitch a single note or just a small range of notes bunched into one arrow?

Seriously need some clarification here.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:07 PM   #2
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:12 PM   #3
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:34 PM   #4
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in before stargroup

first of all you shouldn't really bother with pitch relevance unless there is a single clear melody that's easy to follow. if it's fast, (at least imo) you shouldn't use pitch relevancy blindly for the sake of pitch relevance while your file becomes a steaming pile of **** that nobody plays because the patterns are gay

but uh being able to discern whether a note has a higher or lower pitch than another is something that some people just can't do, so if you can't then you're basically screwed. if you can sort of tell then you should slow the song down to follow it, and have higher pitched notes correspond to arrows on the right and lower to the left (so a scale of four ascending notes could be placed 1234). but the trick is to do that while still changing the patterns up (so it could also be 1324 or 2134). once you practice it enough you'll figure out patterns that work with different groups of relative pitch. it's kinda hard to explain, you just have to mess around.

the important thing about pitch relevancy is usually when you have a repeating note (when you would use a jack) or when you have small groups of repeating notes (where you would pick a pattern of arrows that corresponds to the group, and use it whenever that pattern crops up). basically, consistency is the key.

oh and i'm not really jIvE with the amazing stepmania theoretical words that people are throwing around nowadays but I think compression is just layering lots of different sounds at once


this is probably incomprehensible but just read stargroup's inevitable post
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:22 PM   #5
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hi cetaka

EDIT: should I type up a serious post? o_O
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:27 PM   #6
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:20 AM   #7
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lower sounds to the left, and higher sounds to the right.
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:35 AM   #8
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Think of Guitar Hero xD
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:08 AM   #10
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:05 AM   #11
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you know the file we're collabing on? the beginning follows pitch relevancy as well as the freezes with the melody
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:26 AM   #12
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Default Re: pitch relevancy

- using the same arrow for the same pitch
- lower pitch at the left (optional)
- consistency of PR should be kept through the part (or the entire song)

If you are following the melody part PR is recommended.
But you don't need to make it PR when you want to avoid repetitiveness/jacks.

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Old 03-13-2008, 10:45 AM   #13
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everytime people put PR i think they mean Professor Raine
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:20 PM   #14
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everytime people put PR i think they mean Professor Raine
Is it strange that I think Politically Retarded as opposed to Politically Correct when I see PR?
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god ****ing dammit glove i wanted to post that
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Is it strange that I think Politically Retarded as opposed to Politically Correct when I see PR?
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