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I got myself Magix a few months back and am enjoying it. I have fun making drum beats but when I put the beat into the song, things just sound odd. My problem is that I don't know any drum techniques or patterns or much of anything really. If there is anyone who could show me where I may find some drum motif patterns or some break beats so that I may replicate them in Magix, I would be appreciative. Hell, I might name a song after you.
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Is Famouz
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I dont know much about drum breaks, but you can honestly find out alot just by listening to the music that you love and would like to create.
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If your doing breaks or drum and bass..
I'd advise you to look into the history of the 'Amen Break' from there download that break. you should be able to find a nicely sliced up sample that separates all of the drum pieces which you can then put into a drum machine or sampler. check it out! |
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thanks. I've seen the Amen tab on wiki before and just forgot about it
However, I can not find anything else aside from the Amen, can anyone help me out? Last edited by Quit; 03-8-2008 at 11:28 PM.. Reason: didnt show enough appreciation |
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aka uAnimals
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D.C. pretty much summed it up nice right there with 'Listen to the music you like and are wanting to produce and go from there.'
That is all you need to do to start out. Just listen and mimic until you have it down and can create your own fresh imaginative drum patterns. On the other topic of the Amen Break. You can listen to it. Learn about the fad that swept the commercial industry. And leave it alone. The 'Amen Break' is a solo drum set that the Amen Brothers had recorded, then when sampling first surfaced, that happened to be the recorded sample that was spliced. Do not. I repeat. DO NOT get a hold of that sample for you to slice yourself and reuse. That is ridiculously overused, redone, and overdone again. Get some sample pack banks of percussion of your own and go from there, but using the Amen Break's drums will make you stand out as amateur. Sorry. I could just go off for hours about that break and people wanting to redo it all the time. Anywho. I 2nd what D.C. said that I was going to intially say. Listen to what you'd like to produce, mimic, and go from there.
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EDIT: I HAVE to put this link in here, I'm sorry it's just worth the watch so badly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac As well as the original song, because if the amen break had come elsewhere, and the original song was made today, everyone would still say "OVERUSED": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIb1-EEWt0 Last edited by sleeplessdragn; 03-11-2008 at 02:29 AM.. |
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wow - i couldn't sum that up any better - but i will elaborate in my own words. : D Anyone can take the Amen Break, slice it in beat and rearrange the segments of it - but to strip the sample down to its bare pieces, its individual snares, kicks, etc - change its pitches, throw in your filters and such. You can make a totally different sound. I suggested it only for an introduction into that sort of thing. The drums have a unique punch to them. I will admit it is overused, very overused. However there are individuals who have used that sample to were its barely recognizable. As 'sleeplessdragn' said or hinted to: Its all in the execution. (Venetian Snares...So very good.) However, 'zajac' poses a good point. It is nice to have your own set of percussion, once you can find the sound that you like for yourself. Just remember, always experiment and try new things, listening to music you enjoy yourself is a (of course) a great source of good influence and direction - music is infinite. Last edited by AloysiusRexford; 03-11-2008 at 02:11 AM.. |
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Haha, just had to sum it all up...mainly for myself XD
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Every drum n bass artist uses the amen break at some point at least once. It's too classic and fun to play with not to. I say dl it, play with it, and go on your way.
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l grasp and agree what everyone is saying. music is most definitely infinite, and l can learn alot by experimenting and listening (which l have been doing)
but- not to push everyone's advice aside, if someone could show me where l can find Something like the Amen tab on Wiki l think ld comprehend everything more. after l plugged the above in, it was like a light went on, but l hunger for more. any advice, oh wise ones (non sarcasm)? Last edited by Quit; 03-11-2008 at 11:35 PM.. |
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Start listening to metal.
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If you want to learn about good drum beats, listen to songs by the band Meg & Dia. I saw them at an Angels And Airwaves concert few weeks back, the drummer is incredible and very technical, very creative. It might help.
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Yes. In order to better yourself in the aspect of laying down D'nB drum patterns, you should DEFINITELY list to Metal. Where multiple drums, (snares, kicks, hats, effects, etc) are not layered nor emphasized.
Yes. Do it. (sarcasm)
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I am looking for drum patterns in general, I am not going specifically for drum and bass.
A good pattern can be found in whatever genre. Latin (Woo, Conga Masta Ray Buretto), Classic Rock ('Zep) Funk, Hip Hop (most obviously), whatever. However, I need something to look at, some sort of drum tab that I can copy, listen to and expand on. I have, however, been listening and still coming up with difficulties. I don't know too much metal that is slow enough for me to pick out the pattern, but I am open to suggestions. I respect your point, Zajac, however, I have heard metal where the drums were clean and noticeable. Last edited by Quit; 03-13-2008 at 12:45 AM.. |
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