is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public?

**awein999** · 03-6-2008, 05:36 PM

I understand you guys are getting many subscriptions but the "eventually released to the public" part of the FAQ is starting to be abused. You guys said the end of Februray and I heard rumors it could be a lot longer. The word, eventually, could mean anything. If an admin or someone gave me a specific date of the release that won't be changed, I'll be satisfied.
with all due respect,
awein999.

**Adamaja456** · 03-6-2008, 05:37 PM

it will be released soon

**Tasselfoot** · 03-6-2008, 05:43 PM

april 31st

**awein999** · 03-6-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

april 31st

cool, thank you.

spinal_compression · 03-6-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awein999

cool, thank you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

**Sprite-** · 03-6-2008, 05:47 PM

although april 31st seems so soon, it's really very far away.

**Adamaja456** · 03-6-2008, 05:49 PM

geez, almost 2 months

im glad i have my subby <3

I_like_keys · 03-6-2008, 05:49 PM

That joke isn't funny anymore.

**Adamaja456** · 03-6-2008, 05:50 PM

Subscription Title Start Date Expiry Date
Subscriber January 21st, 2008 April 21st, 2008

10 days of gayness =/

**smartdude1212** · 03-6-2008, 06:21 PM

30 days has September,
April, June, and November.

omgitznpv · 03-6-2008, 06:30 PM

ahahahahahahaha tass

**Adamaja456** · 03-6-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartdude1212

30 days has September,
April, June, and November.

how silly. i just assumed. hahahaha

/ wrists for being retarded

Hwoarang137X · 03-6-2008, 06:38 PM

One month and twenty-five days to go! I'm so excited!!11!

**Redorigami** · 03-6-2008, 06:41 PM

Lol 30 days I knew something looked wrong. ****ing mystery release dates

**Coolboyrulez0** · 03-6-2008, 08:15 PM

cant believe people still fall for that

**awein999** · 03-6-2008, 09:32 PM

wow I fell for that one. so the release date is really April 21st?

**blindreper1179** · 03-6-2008, 09:46 PM

no, he lied. there is no set date. just wait it out or get 3.50.

6 p01nt3d*st@r · 03-6-2008, 09:48 PM

Haha!! My subsciption ends May, 1st. xDD

Edit: Oh..

**awein999** · 03-6-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

no, he lied. there is no set date. just wait it out or get 3.50.

crap. Well I guess now is a good time to pray for a random subscrition to fall in my hands. Or I can live with my disadvantage.

**devonin** · 03-6-2008, 10:08 PM

People need to understand that really, providers of free services simply have it in their best interest to not commit to fixed dates for any implementation. It creates forced deadlines which if you have even a partially voluntary workforce (Which includes people on a salary working unpaid overtime, or hourly working unofficially or on their own time) creates tension that tends primarily to lose you staff members.

By committing to a fixed date, they are also inviting rampant criticism by people who don't actually know the mechanics of the intended implementation, but simply see a date, and see a failure to make that date.

When you look at something like FFR and the way implementations go, the only time they actually know how long something will take is the moment it is finished. Problems can only get fixed when someone has an inspiration to the solution, and the available working time to do it, and the available budget money to pay for it. Things being worked on will have to get postponed when more important issues need work, when unexpected things occur, and for a host of other reasons that can't possibly be accounted for.

Maybe they do have an idea exactly when they want to release the avmiss fix to the public, maybe they decided ahead of time how long they wanted it to be sub-tested to ensure no bugs, maybe they decided how long it was going to stay sub-only as a reward for subscribers.

Heck, you can even be really cynical and suspect that they delay public implementation because they are strapped for cash, and subscriptions are up.

Regardless, insisting that they provide you a fixed date of implementation just shows a lack of understanding and appreciation for the type of situation that free games that nevertheless try to pay staff are in pretty much all of the time.

03-6-2008, 05:36 PM	#1
awein999 (ಠ⌣ಠ) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,647	is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? I understand you guys are getting many subscriptions but the "eventually released to the public" part of the FAQ is starting to be abused. You guys said the end of Februray and I heard rumors it could be a lot longer. The word, eventually, could mean anything. If an admin or someone gave me a specific date of the release that won't be changed, I'll be satisfied. with all due respect, awein999.

03-6-2008, 05:37 PM	#2
Adamaja456 Absurd Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 31 Billion Club, WA Age: 35 Posts: 6,433	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? it will be released soon __________________ 582 Tier Points(Tier 3) 602 AAAs(517+23+62) People who bought me subscriptions/tokens: DrugstoreCowboy(1 month) ELRayford(3 months) ~GJampa(3 months) Jerry DB(3 months) 4th place in Gamewhore Competition(3 months) Phynx(FGJ album and Dendrite V2) dragon890x(1 year) Slide(1 year)

03-6-2008, 05:43 PM	#3
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? april 31st __________________ RIP

03-6-2008, 05:47 PM	#6
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 37 Posts: 7,316	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? although april 31st seems so soon, it's really very far away.

03-6-2008, 05:49 PM	#7
Adamaja456 Absurd Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 31 Billion Club, WA Age: 35 Posts: 6,433	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? geez, almost 2 months im glad i have my subby <3 __________________ 582 Tier Points(Tier 3) 602 AAAs(517+23+62) People who bought me subscriptions/tokens: DrugstoreCowboy(1 month) ELRayford(3 months) ~GJampa(3 months) Jerry DB(3 months) 4th place in Gamewhore Competition(3 months) Phynx(FGJ album and Dendrite V2) dragon890x(1 year) Slide(1 year)

03-6-2008, 05:49 PM	#8
I_like_keys FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 200	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? That joke isn't funny anymore.

03-6-2008, 05:50 PM	#9
Adamaja456 Absurd Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 31 Billion Club, WA Age: 35 Posts: 6,433	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? Subscription Title Start Date Expiry Date Subscriber January 21st, 2008 April 21st, 2008 10 days of gayness =/ __________________ 582 Tier Points(Tier 3) 602 AAAs(517+23+62) People who bought me subscriptions/tokens: DrugstoreCowboy(1 month) ELRayford(3 months) ~GJampa(3 months) Jerry DB(3 months) 4th place in Gamewhore Competition(3 months) Phynx(FGJ album and Dendrite V2) dragon890x(1 year) Slide(1 year)

03-6-2008, 06:21 PM	#10
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 6,687	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? 30 days has September, April, June, and November.

03-6-2008, 06:38 PM	#13
Hwoarang137X FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 35	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? One month and twenty-five days to go! I'm so excited!!11!

03-6-2008, 08:15 PM	#15
Coolboyrulez0 VICES Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 10,042	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? cant believe people still fall for that __________________ https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

03-6-2008, 09:32 PM	#16
awein999 (ಠ⌣ಠ) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,647	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? wow I fell for that one. so the release date is really April 21st?

03-6-2008, 09:48 PM	#18
6 p01nt3d*st@r FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 1,120	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? Haha!! My subsciption ends May, 1st. xDD Edit: Oh.. __________________ Last edited by 6 p01nt3dst@r; 03-6-2008 at 09:54 PM..*

03-6-2008, 10:08 PM	#20
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 42 Posts: 10,120	Re: is there a specific date avmiss fix is really going public? People need to understand that really, providers of free services simply have it in their best interest to not commit to fixed dates for any implementation. It creates forced deadlines which if you have even a partially voluntary workforce (Which includes people on a salary working unpaid overtime, or hourly working unofficially or on their own time) creates tension that tends primarily to lose you staff members. By committing to a fixed date, they are also inviting rampant criticism by people who don't actually know the mechanics of the intended implementation, but simply see a date, and see a failure to make that date. When you look at something like FFR and the way implementations go, the only time they actually know how long something will take is the moment it is finished. Problems can only get fixed when someone has an inspiration to the solution, and the available working time to do it, and the available budget money to pay for it. Things being worked on will have to get postponed when more important issues need work, when unexpected things occur, and for a host of other reasons that can't possibly be accounted for. Maybe they do have an idea exactly when they want to release the avmiss fix to the public, maybe they decided ahead of time how long they wanted it to be sub-tested to ensure no bugs, maybe they decided how long it was going to stay sub-only as a reward for subscribers. Heck, you can even be really cynical and suspect that they delay public implementation because they are strapped for cash, and subscriptions are up. Regardless, insisting that they provide you a fixed date of implementation just shows a lack of understanding and appreciation for the type of situation that free games that nevertheless try to pay staff are in pretty much all of the time.

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