TWG LX: Mystery Game

[Litodude]

oh.

:barrelroll:

[meno_rocks123]

Somehow my vote reason makes the most sense 0.o

[Ravia]

Originally Posted by Litodude

There is no specific reason for you to "protect" me. But when I mean I'm protecting myself I mean please don't vote for me if you don't have any credible evidence to vote for me in the first place. If you are making a saftey vote, then you would realize that your vote on me isn't a safety but instead an actual vote, since emerald had already voted for me.

I actually just read Rebirth's statement, and I agree with what he said.

You're getting all pissy over 2 votes. I might have even changed mine later.

Manti, you're stupid this time. Let's look at the scenarios.

I'm a wolf, Lito is too: Very bad odds. If this is true, why would I even post a vote against him? THINK.
I'm a wolf, Lito's not: Slight odds.This would condone Lito's defensive stance, but... he could even be a neutral.
I'm not a wolf, Lito's a wolf: Great odds. Seems likely considering the way he reacted to my safety vote. I just wanted to get it cast in case I didn't make it on for a day or two.
I'm not a wolf, Lito's not either: Horrible odds. Non-wolf infighting is really hazardous due to it turning into "who pisses you off least."

[gnr61]

safety on meno for the time being. regardless, saying "GREAT ODDS" that lito is a wolf and you are not based solely on the fact that he responded to having a majority vote negatively seems entirely too scapegoatish based on so little evidence.

[dooey100]

Originally Posted by Ravia

I actually just read Rebirth's statement, and I agree with what he said.

You're getting all pissy over 2 votes. I might have even changed mine later.

The exact number doesn't matter, its the fact that he was leading.

Manti, you're stupid this time. Let's look at the scenarios.

I'm a wolf, Lito is too: Very bad odds. If this is true, why would I even post a vote against him? THINK.

You could be trying to separate yourselves. Im not saying thats what is happening, but its apossibility

I'm a wolf, Lito's not: Slight odds.This would condone Lito's defensive stance, but... he could even be a neutral.

He just wanted you to safety a different person because he had the majority. I wouldn't call that a defensive stance, he just didn't want to be lynched, which is quite normal.

I'm not a wolf, Lito's a wolf: Great odds. Seems likely considering the way he reacted to my safety vote. I just wanted to get it cast in case I didn't make it on for a day or two.

see above

I'm not a wolf, Lito's not either: Horrible odds. Non-wolf infighting is really hazardous due to it turning into "who pisses you off least."

yeah, non wolf infighting is bad, but how would you know he is human anyway?

tl;dr you should have let it drop, lito hasn't done anything a wolf would do, not wanting to get lynched is normal.

Ravia

[Ravia]

See, the whole thing about him asking me to switch safeties?

He's either a wolf trying to bait me away, or an independent. I don't really think a human would get that publicly defensive.

And Lito posted a safety due to possible conflicts with a real life. That's what I did; notice I said Mondays are sucky. I dunno if I'll be on at all tomorrow. So I safetied on him because I didn't think I'd be back on tonight.

Oh whoops, guess I am. Removing the safety, still gotta think about this for a minute.

[Litodude]

Disregarding what rebirth has said until the end, I'm going to analyze your votes based on what you claim them to be.

Originally Posted by Ravia

I'm a wolf, Lito is too: Very bad odds. If this is true, why would I even post a vote against him?

Isn't your vote against me an intended safety? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a saftey vote is only put when there are no real suspicions and to make sure he player does not receive a phantom.

And it's not unlikely that voles would vote off other wolves, or at the least, place a vote on them to lessen any suspicion that others might have.

Originally Posted by Ravia

I'm a wolf, Lito's not: Slight odds.This would condone Lito's defensive stance, but... he could even be a neutral.

As mentioned in earlier posts, I guess i am a "nuetral" or the "good guy," seeing as I do not have any special powers whatsoever nor do I have an objective.

Originally Posted by Ravia

I'm not a wolf, Lito's a wolf: Great odds. Seems likely considering the way he reacted to my safety vote. I just wanted to get it cast in case I didn't make it on for a day or two.

I believe my reaction was correct and necesarry. Like I said earlier, if your vote WAS intended to be a safety then you were mistaken.

Originally Posted by Ravia

I'm not a wolf, Lito's not either: Horrible odds. Non-wolf infighting is really hazardous due to it turning into "who pisses you off least."

This last statement really places a big question mark over your role. Where are you getting these odds from? Are they biased to your benefit? Because it seems so. It's as if you're hastily concluding information and putting it out on the thread. It also seems as if you're trying to find a good reason to ACTUALLY vote for me, and not intending safety any more.

Now Rebirth's statement ( I'm assuming you're talking about the one on the previous page):
As I said repeatedly, I'm only trying to cover my ass from your mistake. I really don't see how my objection to a vote would qualify as a "wolf" quality. I also want to point out that I have no idea if you two are working together, have an alliance, etc. I'm just going on my interpretation on your vote and his vote alongside.

[Litodude]

wows a ninja

[DarkManticoreX2]

Sigh at people.

Originally Posted by Ravia

I'm a wolf, Lito is too: Very bad odds. If this is true, why would I even post a vote against him? THINK.

The odds here would be < 0

I'm a wolf, Lito's not: Slight odds.This would condone Lito's defensive stance, but... he could even be a neutral.

If Lito is neutral, It would condone his stance. You placed a safety on someone who already had one. When that person asked you to change (which anyone, Wolf Human or neutral would do) you attacked them. You didn't even adress the possibility of you being a wolf. I disagree with your odds here. I think they are Very Good

I'm not a wolf, Lito's a wolf: Great odds. Seems likely considering the way he reacted to my safety vote. I just wanted to get it cast in case I didn't make it on for a day or two.

See above, A safety is placed on someone who does not already have a vote. Odds: Slight

I'm not a wolf, Lito's not either: Horrible odds. Non-wolf infighting is really hazardous due to it turning into "who pisses you off least."

Non wolf infighting happens all the time. Humans don't know who each other are and are bound to fight amoungst themselves in order to find the wolves Odds: 50/50

I wrote my thoughts in green. What else.... Oh this load of crap

Originally Posted by Rebirth0

Lito, because he is the only person we know of (or at least I know of) that talked to BDN before he died.

Even if Lito did talk to him, so what? the entire thread knew he was trying to set up an alliance. The wolves aren't just going to sit back and go "Dur okay lets just let them figure out who everyone is and then come get us". As I stated before, there could also be a third party involved in this as well.

And right now I'm sorta thinking the Assassins are really wolves trying to come out as some other role. If BDN was an assassin, which would be wolf, he couldv'e been randomly killed by these items people have,or the other wolves took a huge risk in killing him to side-track people. (If that even works for Day 1).

So BDN was a wolf trying to start the alliance, and the wolves killed him to side track us?

So the wolves wolfed a wolf?

..........................I'm not even touching that. It's the most retarted thing i've ever heard. There's no profit in it for the wolves. They don't get any info, or get a wolf into the alliance

Option 2: he was randomly killed by an item. Possibly, But I'm placing my bets that Mak was killed by an item and BDN was wolved to stop the transfer of Information in the human alliance. That makes a lot more sense than the Junk you posted.

And because someone talked to BDN who has a similar role, and we know Lito talked to him at least, thats what I can go off of for now

Yes, because the wolves wolfed a wolf for the wolving and lito talked to BDN Lito must be a wolf because someone talked to BDN with a similar role.

^^^ This sentance does not make sense

Thats just my own assumption. I haven't really had enough AIM discussions to go on anything else.

Please try harder


That and the fact he's worrying about having two safety votes on him. Seems a little nervous for such a small number of votes

Would you be nervous if the day was ending tonight and you had the most amount of votes reguardless of your role?

K bai

[Ravia]

And you posted all this tl;dr after I took off the safety?

I think what happened is that I misinterpreted safety for "don't want to miss voting phase".

Also, what the hell are you talking about? Biased odds? That last statement is 100% true; remember, how are humans going to win if they just lynch each other off one-by one? And why would a neutral get so sensitive if they have no special powers?

[dooey100]

Originally Posted by Ravia

I don't really think a human would get that publicly defensive.

Humans don't want to get lynched either.

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Ravia

And you posted all this tl;dr after I took off the safety?

I think what happened is that I misinterpreted safety for "don't want to miss voting phase".

Also, what the hell are you talking about? Biased odds? That last statement is 100% true; remember, how are humans going to win if they just lynch each other off one-by one? And why would a neutral get so sensitive if they have no special powers?

I hope questions in the last paragraph were just rhetorical, because I think they've been answers already by those who posted already.

Also, how did you take off the saftey? o.o I missed that.

[Ravia]

Okay, lemme break it down:

Safety is no longer on Lito; I took that down after realizing I had misinterpreted the meaning of a safety vote.

I still have my convictions about everything, so I'm not placing an official vote on anyone yet.

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Ravia

Okay, lemme break it down:

Safety is no longer on Lito; I took that down after realizing I had misinterpreted the meaning of a safety vote.

I still have my convictions about everything, so I'm not placing an official vote on anyone yet.

Well, then, if thats true everything is fine and dandy.

EXCEPT for rebirth's vote, since it's base on the interactions between you and I. Solve this how?

[dooey100]

you can't remove votes, i don't think, you can only change them.

also, what everyone is trying to say is:

humans fighting humans is bad. humans fighting wolves is good. how are you supposed to know which one you are doing?

This only way is if you know who is not a wolf, ie, are one yourself.

[meno_rocks123]

Ravia:
From what I've read in past mystery games is that neutrals generally have objectives other than just "kill the wolves" or their non-special role would be worthless and they wouldn't play.

[Ravia]

I personally can't solve Rebirth's vote because I didn't make it. But the hope is that after he notices this he might take a second look.

[meno_rocks123]

wow thread activity X40 tonight

[Litodude]

Okay, yea, after reading Rebirth's state a couple of times I realize how it doesn't make sense at all. I think Manti's analysis did it justice.

I don't understand his basis for voting me. I'm really leaning toward both Ravia and Rebirth having some sort of alliance, and he decided to vote on me after I got oh so "offensive."

[Litodude]

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