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Old 07-21-2004, 05:18 AM   #1
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Old 07-21-2004, 05:41 AM   #2
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I'd just knee the guy really hard in the abdomen, then push him back right after, so that he ends up stumbling a bit. Stumbling pisses off people who want to kick your ass. =D
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:33 PM   #3
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Wrestling. Only way to end the fight without serious injuries.
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:46 AM   #4
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Intimidation can do wonders.
If they think they might get their ass kicked. They very well might.

That's just what I've heard. The fights I've been in never lasted that long
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:05 AM   #5
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While I am tempted to list off a few flashy kung-fu styles, in a real street fight, the best style is the "Use Your Environment To Your Advantage" style.

But Karate helps alot.




Anyways, yeah. I started taking Karate, the art of self-defense, when I was 10 years old. It wasn't hard on the body (aka the sensei didn't beat you into total exhaustion), it didn't take complete dedication, you just learned and practiced. While I never felt myself really changing, as I got to higher and higher ranks I realized I was begging the sensei for 25 more push-ups during warmup, I could almost jump over my little brother (standing up), and that I could actually spar and beat that tall asian guy that was two years older than me. Also, while I was waiting for my class to start, they had some fantastic books on advanced pressure points, and japanese stories about old wise men outwitting young and foolish fighters (each with it's own Confucius moral about avoiding fights when you can!).
But then, of course, Middle School happened, and suddenly Karate was eating away at my homework time. I had to quit right before I got my black belt before my grades fell too much. Now I'm a lazy geek with not half the strength nor stamina I used to have.

But anyways, the moral is, Karate is fantastic and everyone should do it, because it will make you a very happy ninja. And senseis are really cool people.




Oh, and the philosophy of fighting? I've tried to figure out what that is, but I came to the conclusion that there is no philosophy. Fighting is fighting, the (arguably) simplest part of human nature.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:50 AM   #6
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I do understand what you're saying, I just don't know what to say.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:54 AM   #7
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My favourite kind of fight is the one where I run away.
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I love fighting in all its forms, and I think about it a lot. It's really a shame that I've never been in a real fight, nor do I think I ever will be, despite my great desire. Getting into fights is a bad idea, which is why I don't start them, but sure could be fun.

The reason I don't think I'll ever be in a fight is that I think I could do much more damage and win more with only my words. Especially if other people are around, if you come out as the good guy, you usually win in the eyes of everyone else.

The way I look at it is this: if you keep a cool head yourself, but still end up getting into a fight, then your opponent is usually angered and/or otherwise heavily emotion-driven. Due to that, some choice words that push the right buttons (e.g. words of embarassment or taunting) might make him flip his wig and do something stupid. The bottom line is, don't give your opponent the satisfaction of doing what he wanted to do, or, if he does kick you around a bit, turn him into the bad guy and play on his insecurities. Words are mighty weapons.

If I actually have to get down and fight for some strange reason, I'd just try to put my opponent in some easy, simple submission move which would give me an upper hand in a bargaining deal.

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Old 07-22-2004, 04:00 PM   #9
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kain, wrestling is my favorite style of fighting because that is how you END it. Do whatever you have to during the fight, but if you get close and force wrestling, skill alone can let you defeat someone twice your size and once they are pinned the fight ends soon. When someone gets in that close, the only real option is to respond with the same tactics or back up. If they keep coming, you are stuck in a wrestling match. I don't mean the sport wrestling with all the rules and stuff, nor do I mean the fake WWF junk, I mean actual wrestling.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:44 PM   #10
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That rather confuses me though, about the whole, "guy twice your size" thing. I mean, true, with enough skill you can wrestle him to victory, but what if the guy twice your size has the same wrestling skill? You'd still be in trouble, wouldn't you?
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Old 07-23-2004, 01:43 AM   #11
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I heart fighting, but I have to say it is best to avoid fights in general. I used to like to start them, back in ninth grade when I used to like to do just about everything....and unfortunately, I have been in a few. Pushing people's buttons was (and still is, sometimes) a specialty of mine.

As far as werestling goes, that is just fun. I wrestle with friends as often as I get the chance, and it is just amazingly fun. Who cares that my shoulder felt like it had been ripped from the socket for a few days. =) It was awesome, and do it again? Totally. I hope I break something next time.
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Old 07-23-2004, 02:31 AM   #12
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Someone give kain_4516 a cookie.

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Old 07-24-2004, 12:35 AM   #13
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There's just one thing though:

If you're completely aware and conscious during a fight, that means the pain you have to endure will be magnified. Right?
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I didn't get halfway through the second post
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:04 AM   #15
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Talk all you want about this fighting mumbo jumbo, but the truth is this:

No one fights fair anymore. It's always like 2 or 3 on 1 and there's usually weapons involved.

A fight can't start if there's a gun pointed at you, and that, my friend, is the sad truth.
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Fighting sucks. I remember when I was a kid some other kid and his friends who were bigger than me wanted to try and fight me for whatever reason, so basically they all ganged up on me. Since I've been taking Tae Kwon Do since I was 5.. well yeah I won but still I didn't feel good at all about beating them up
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Fighting sucks. I remember when I was a kid some other kid and his friends who were bigger than me wanted to try and fight me for whatever reason, so basically they all ganged up on me. Since I've been taking Tae Kwon Do since I was 5.. well yeah I won but still I didn't feel good at all about beating them up


Hahaha, sorry, but I just got through reading Ender's Game again, and I couldnt help but laugh...
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Congratulations, you have just defined what it is to be a sentient person. That theory is a logical outward movement from knowing yourself, an attribute that I have come to realize most people lack.

My friends and I have been... hrrm "training" for some time now. We are currently using bokkens, but I am very skilled with a knife. I have 3 broken fingers. Need...Hockey gloves.
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Fighting sucks. I remember when I was a kid some other kid and his friends who were bigger than me wanted to try and fight me for whatever reason, so basically they all ganged up on me. Since I've been taking Tae Kwon Do since I was 5.. well yeah I won but still I didn't feel good at all about beating them up


Hahaha, sorry, but I just got through reading Ender's Game again, and I couldnt help but laugh...
Pwnage series. I've read all 7. Pretty challenging stuff.
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Fighting sucks. I remember when I was a kid some other kid and his friends who were bigger than me wanted to try and fight me for whatever reason, so basically they all ganged up on me. Since I've been taking Tae Kwon Do since I was 5.. well yeah I won but still I didn't feel good at all about beating them up


Hahaha, sorry, but I just got through reading Ender's Game again, and I couldnt help but laugh...
Pwnage series. I've read all 7. Pretty challenging stuff.
I fail to see how it connects with what I said though but I've never read it so yeah. >_>

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You're right, there's nothing glorious about beating somebody up. And beating people up isn't the truth behind Martial Art. Fighting isn't about feeling almighty and powerful and beating people up. If you are the 'easy going' guy, fights should equal self defense (when you have NO OTHER CHOISE but to fight), meaning, fights don't happen unless your OPPONENT has chosen to fight you, not the other way around. You mustn't think of fighting as in terms of being morally good or wrong.....what you must realize is that you are still alive and did what you had to to escape harm. And THAT, my friend, is all that matters.
Tae Kwon Do is about self-defense, which is what I did. But it didn't feel right. But what you said in all the rest of that paragraph basically had no relevance to anything I said because you're telling me what you feel fighting is and more or less I don't really care. What you did was make it sound like I hurt the guys because I wanted to. Then you started talking about fighting being morally good/bad and talking about being alive like if I'd just got done fighting some axe murderer. I believe you got a little carried away there, buddy.
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