Now that you've updated the site..

**DJ_Lain** · 07-17-2004, 06:43 PM

Remove the (hopskortl)ing clock. it causes system lag every second and makes playing FFR impossible. I do feel this is an unneeded feature of the site as not many will notice it being there.

**lightdarkness** · 07-17-2004, 08:03 PM

Could you please post the specs of your computer? As this is only happening on 3 or 4 computers that I know of.

**DJ_Lain** · 07-18-2004, 08:19 PM

i've tested this extensively on 3 browsers on a G3 350, a p2 400 using firefox and IE, and another machine ( stats unknown, but higher than 800mhz). all have some degree of lag every time the clock updates.

Pooping_Panda · 07-19-2004, 06:35 PM

ya i get that also....i cant play anymore with it

Anticrombie0909 · 07-19-2004, 10:28 PM

1. FFR can be screwy on macs
2. A P2 400 is gonna be laggy anyway, that comp is a piece
3. 800 mhz isn't fast at all, that can have lag as well

Time to upgrade!

**DJ_Lain** · 07-20-2004, 04:20 AM

FFR ran quite nicely on this mac. Granted, it can't handle the super high levels of FFR, none of which i've been able to complete no matter what i play it on. Hoever this clock causes hell, and i do have the tourneys to deal with. upgrading is WAY out of my scope, due to more pressing matters that everyone deals with. In all aspects, it's just one more thing i have to deal with, and feel that the site could do without the clock.

soccr743 · 07-20-2004, 08:56 AM

I guess since so many people have problems with it that an option for turning it off would be good...

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virus-maker · 07-20-2004, 11:00 AM

I dont have that big a problem with the clock, since my computer runs at 2 Ghz, but i dont think it needs to be updated every second.

ad0gg · 07-20-2004, 11:23 AM

mine works fine at 1.4GHz

**Dronak** · 07-20-2004, 01:31 PM

My computer is 800MHz and I haven't noticed pausing every single second when the clock updates. If something is happening, it's apparently small enough that I don't really notice is because it's not enough to really throw me off. It could be affecting things a bit though, because lately I do seem to be missing more arrows that I thought I hit.

If enough people are having trouble with the clock, maybe the user can be allowed to turn it off like soccr743 or it can update less often like virus-maker said. Probably every minute or even every few minutes (2? 5?) would be sufficient. I doubt people need a clock on FFR to be accurate to 1 second.

raven_winterchill · 07-20-2004, 08:39 PM

I too would like to see the clock removed. If I want to know what time it is, I can look at the clock on MY computer, not something that causes my comp to lag every second. It's unnessecary and redundant, and more seems like just "showing off" with the new layout.

**zajac** · 07-20-2004, 08:45 PM

Am I the only one that doesn't know what clock you are talking about?

That and yeah.... Those computers are sh`t..... lol

That and you have to include the variable of the quality of FFR you are playing at..... With high quality, it will run slower, while low quality should run perfectly smooth.....

CalibreneGuru · 07-20-2004, 08:48 PM

Zajac, you win most observant user award.

**Dronak** · 07-20-2004, 08:55 PM

Look in that orange bar at the top of the screen. Near the right side, after all the menu options for the game, forum, chat, simfiles, etc. There's a clock. It updates every second and is causing some people additional lag when they play the game.

I'm sorry we have such crappy computers. Some of us can't afford to buy a brand new one every 6 months or so when it becomes out of date and surpassed by newer technology. If *you* have a few thousand dollars that you can spend on new computers regularly, I envy you. Me, I have to use most of my money for more important things like rent, food, and utility bills.

**zajac** · 07-20-2004, 09:04 PM

teeheehee..... i've finally won something.... YAY! I see the clock now.... And by the way.... Computers don' cost several thousand dollars you silly.... Maybe 5 years ago they did, but now you can get a pretty good computer from dell for only a mere $400 or less.....

But yeah..... I don't find a point in the clock.... In fact, it doesn't even have to refresh on it's own.... What kind of person just stares at the clock to watch it update? Mopst people on FFR, especially in forums, are just clicking around and always on the move, so what if the clock just refreshed with every page refresh.... That way it only refreshes if you click on anoter link, so if you play FFR, it won't update at all......

**zajac** · 07-20-2004, 09:05 PM

teeheehee..... i've finally won something.... YAY! I see the clock now.... And by the way.... Computers don' cost several thousand dollars you silly.... Maybe 5 years ago they did, but now you can get a pretty good computer from dell for only a mere $400 or less.....

But yeah..... I don't find a point in the clock.... In fact, it doesn't even have to refresh on it's own.... What kind of person just stares at the clock to watch it update? Mopst people on FFR, especially in forums, are just clicking around and always on the move, so what if the clock just refreshed with every page refresh.... That way it only refreshes if you click on anoter link, so if you play FFR, it won't update at all......

**Dronak** · 07-20-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zajac

Computers don' cost several thousand dollars you silly.... Maybe 5 years ago they did, but now you can get a pretty good computer from dell for only a mere $400 or less.....

Obviously it depends on what you buy. If you buy a low end desktop, then yes, those are easily obtainable for under $1000. If you buy a high end laptop like I did (and it was a Dell, BTW) it's not that difficult to get the cost up around $3000. I prefer laptops, they will be convenient when/if I need to travel and give presentations for work, and I don't buy low end models because I want to be able to do work on it and that can be computationally intensive stuff. So yes, it does cost me a few thousand dollars for a new computer.

tina_goes_doo · 07-22-2004, 07:48 AM

Oh god how observant are you people? It was only after reading this thread that i noticed the clock. Kudos to you zajac! I guess this also stressed how redundant the clock really is. It's not that important to update it so regularly so why bother?

Chrissi · 07-22-2004, 09:00 AM

The clock was the first thing I noticed. How could you not notice? It's there ticking away at the top of the screen. I always notice moving things first.

I agree with zajac... the clock should just update with refresh. I mean, that clock updating every second must be using some sort of javascript or something.

You just need a little server-side scripting such as PHP to make the time reload with each page. Plus the browser doesn't see any difference between it and any other text on the page, so it does not increase loading time or lag anything at all (unless of course the server starts lagging, but that's different). This sort of thing is the utmost of simplicity with PHP.

ad0gg · 07-22-2004, 09:11 AM

The clock was the first thing I noticed when the page was updated. Other than the new design, of course. I think updating the clock once a minute is enough, or even just update with refresh is fine. The only thing I would use a clock for on FFR is to check how long ago I last visited the forums. And thats not even part of the clock we're talking about.

07-17-2004, 06:43 PM	#1
DJ_Lain FFR Music Producers Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 61	Now that you've updated the site.. Remove the (hopskortl)ing clock. it causes system lag every second and makes playing FFR impossible. I do feel this is an unneeded feature of the site as not many will notice it being there. __________________ Fandemonium ‘06 – Idaho’s Media Culture Entertainment Expo – August 3-5, 2007 An annual celebration of Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gaming, Anime, Horror & Comics Fandom! http://www.fandemonium.org

07-17-2004, 08:03 PM	#2
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 11,308	Could you please post the specs of your computer? As this is only happening on 3 or 4 computers that I know of. __________________

07-18-2004, 08:19 PM	#3
DJ_Lain FFR Music Producers Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 61	i've tested this extensively on 3 browsers on a G3 350, a p2 400 using firefox and IE, and another machine ( stats unknown, but higher than 800mhz). all have some degree of lag every time the clock updates. __________________ Fandemonium ‘06 – Idaho’s Media Culture Entertainment Expo – August 3-5, 2007 An annual celebration of Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gaming, Anime, Horror & Comics Fandom! http://www.fandemonium.org

07-20-2004, 04:20 AM	#6
DJ_Lain FFR Music Producers Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 61	FFR ran quite nicely on this mac. Granted, it can't handle the super high levels of FFR, none of which i've been able to complete no matter what i play it on. Hoever this clock causes hell, and i do have the tourneys to deal with. upgrading is WAY out of my scope, due to more pressing matters that everyone deals with. In all aspects, it's just one more thing i have to deal with, and feel that the site could do without the clock. __________________ Fandemonium ‘06 – Idaho’s Media Culture Entertainment Expo – August 3-5, 2007 An annual celebration of Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gaming, Anime, Horror & Comics Fandom! http://www.fandemonium.org

07-20-2004, 08:56 AM	#7
soccr743 FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 549	I guess since so many people have problems with it that an option for turning it off would be good... -----Soccr743----- __________________

07-19-2004, 06:35 PM	#4
Pooping_Panda FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: illinizzle Posts: 1,773	ya i get that also....i cant play anymore with it

07-19-2004, 10:28 PM	#5
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	1. FFR can be screwy on macs 2. A P2 400 is gonna be laggy anyway, that comp is a piece 3. 800 mhz isn't fast at all, that can have lag as well Time to upgrade!

07-20-2004, 11:00 AM	#8
virus-maker FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 78	I dont have that big a problem with the clock, since my computer runs at 2 Ghz, but i dont think it needs to be updated every second. __________________

07-20-2004, 11:23 AM	#9
ad0gg FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At My House Posts: 989	mine works fine at 1.4GHz __________________

07-20-2004, 01:31 PM	#10
Dronak FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 601	My computer is 800MHz and I haven't noticed pausing every single second when the clock updates. If something is happening, it's apparently small enough that I don't really notice is because it's not enough to really throw me off. It could be affecting things a bit though, because lately I do seem to be missing more arrows that I thought I hit. If enough people are having trouble with the clock, maybe the user can be allowed to turn it off like soccr743 or it can update less often like virus-maker said. Probably every minute or even every few minutes (2? 5?) would be sufficient. I doubt people need a clock on FFR to be accurate to 1 second. __________________ Essentially retired now, but still ranked on the list of FFR's Top One Handers. One-Hander Skill Tokens unlocked: The V2 Token, The Patience Token, X_X1MissX_X, AAA v5, T.H.E.G.A.M.E.T.O.K.E.N Pseudo Skill Tokens unlocked: Numbers 21, 44, 33, 57, 26, 24, 47, 95

07-20-2004, 08:39 PM	#11
raven_winterchill FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1	I too would like to see the clock removed. If I want to know what time it is, I can look at the clock on MY computer, not something that causes my comp to lag every second. It's unnessecary and redundant, and more seems like just "showing off" with the new layout.

07-20-2004, 08:48 PM	#13
CalibreneGuru FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 108	Zajac, you win most observant user award.

07-20-2004, 08:55 PM	#14
Dronak FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 601	Look in that orange bar at the top of the screen. Near the right side, after all the menu options for the game, forum, chat, simfiles, etc. There's a clock. It updates every second and is causing some people additional lag when they play the game. I'm sorry we have such crappy computers. Some of us can't afford to buy a brand new one every 6 months or so when it becomes out of date and surpassed by newer technology. If you have a few thousand dollars that you can spend on new computers regularly, I envy you. Me, I have to use most of my money for more important things like rent, food, and utility bills. __________________ Essentially retired now, but still ranked on the list of FFR's Top One Handers. One-Hander Skill Tokens unlocked: The V2 Token, The Patience Token, X_X1MissX_X, AAA v5, T.H.E.G.A.M.E.T.O.K.E.N Pseudo Skill Tokens unlocked: Numbers 21, 44, 33, 57, 26, 24, 47, 95

07-22-2004, 07:48 AM	#18
tina_goes_doo FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 84	Oh god how observant are you people? It was only after reading this thread that i noticed the clock. Kudos to you zajac! I guess this also stressed how redundant the clock really is. It's not that important to update it so regularly so why bother? __________________

07-22-2004, 09:00 AM	#19
Chrissi FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Game Age: 39 Posts: 3,019	The clock was the first thing I noticed. How could you not notice? It's there ticking away at the top of the screen. I always notice moving things first. I agree with zajac... the clock should just update with refresh. I mean, that clock updating every second must be using some sort of javascript or something. You just need a little server-side scripting such as PHP to make the time reload with each page. Plus the browser doesn't see any difference between it and any other text on the page, so it does not increase loading time or lag anything at all (unless of course the server starts lagging, but that's different). This sort of thing is the utmost of simplicity with PHP. __________________ C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

07-22-2004, 09:11 AM	#20
ad0gg FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At My House Posts: 989	The clock was the first thing I noticed when the page was updated. Other than the new design, of course. I think updating the clock once a minute is enough, or even just update with refresh is fine. The only thing I would use a clock for on FFR is to check how long ago I last visited the forums. And thats not even part of the clock we're talking about.

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