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Old 11-11-2007, 12:23 PM   #81
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:54 PM   #82
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Squeek: I have looked around and did some research and the wii is not the system for me. I do not like their games, I do not like the controller, I do not like the graphics. I have played a wii and it is fun but I would prefer another system.

Fish: Does the PS3 have good online play or is it like the PS2?
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That's fine and I understand. You, at least, did some research before making the decision that the console wasn't for you.

PS3 has free online. It just doesn't have the library that the 360 has.
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Which honestly, isn't going to be a problem much longer Squeek. More PS3 games are on the way making the whole "no library" not as substantial. Remember:

- Lost Planet
- Bioshock
- Gears of War

All have PC ports. Which brings up an interesting rumor that's going on. Apparently, Bioshock is being brought up again to be ported to the PS3. Hmm....
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Yeah, I'm probably going to get a PS3 within the next month because I'm a whore for Ratchet and Clank.
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1. What the hell happend to Fish

2. Why the hell is this stickied and can a mod please Re-name the title to it's in proper spelling?
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:18 PM   #87
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Id stick with the 360 right now Fido. PS3 is looking good in about a year.
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I said decent. As in "good". Most of those games suck. I wouldn't even consider buying them on PC. BioShock, TOB, and CoD4 are the only three good shooters on the 360. If you're crazy then you include Halo 3 and maybe FEAR.

Half of the games on that list didn't break into the 9/10 range. Some were even 7/10s.

And I don't understand Metacritic. For some reason, all Xbox 360 games are rated higher than Wii games. Like, there are four games in Wii with average scores in the 90s and eight in the 80s, which means everything else is in 70s and below. That strikes me as incredibly odd. Even Wii Sports is down in the 70s.

Edit: Ah, I get it. I should check the user scores to compare to "official reviewer" scores. Wii Sports has a 74 on Metacritic, but the users give it a 90. I think I trust the latter rather than the former.
oh for crying out loud... most of the games i listed because they're are generally enjoyed, i didn't realise you wanted a list of games you personally think are good, dont give me that metacritic crap either. i'm going by general user reviews and my memory of the games receptions.


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I don't understand why everyone still thinks Goldeneye is the greatest shooter ever made. It isn't. It's something I call "nostalgiac arbitrary boosting". Your memories of the game are made better by the fact that you haven't played it in a long time and that other people walk around saying it's the best FPS on a console, ever. Goldeneye was not that great. If someone was shooting you from behind, it would be like two years until you could spin around to find out who it was. RCP-90 was the only good gun and whoever had it pretty much won unless you turned rockets / golden gun on. There was only one fun level to play in Multiplayer and with multiplayer, they blacked out your surrounding area since they couldn't display it all on a crappy processor like the one in the n64, so you couldn't even see that far.

Apply my theory to any game you hear people talk about being better than a modern game. People still say Super Mario Bros. is the greatest platformer ever made. Heck no! It was the most fun to us because it was the first time we ever got to play something like that! Just like Goldeneye. And by the way, Super Mario Bros. 3 was better than the original. I don't know if I can call it the best platformer, but it's certainly up there. The same goes for Super Mario 64. That was a pretty terrible game. We all ogled over it because it was the first time we got to play a real game in real 3D. All other 3D games were terrible compared to this. Reviewers are saying that they're pulling another SMB 1, 2, 3 combo here. SMB 1 was awesome and we all have nostalgia of it. SMB 2 sucked and we all hated it. SMB 3 was even better than SMB. So, boost it up a few years. SM64, for whatever reason, was well-liked. Super Mario Sunshine, for whatever reason, wasn't. (I actually liked Sunshine a lot more than SM64.) Super Mario Galaxy is being called the best of the three.
more opinionated nonsense, people who havent played those games when they first came out can still enjoy them because they are well made, not just because they were inotive for their time. as for goldeneye i didn't say it was the best FPS ever made but i do still enjoy it. thats my opinion and im sure a lot of people share it.

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360 has a few good games unfortuantely (Xbox would have died if it wasn't for Halo)
Wii is getting there
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Squeek: I have looked around and did some research and the wii is not the system for me. I do not like their games, I do not like the controller, I do not like the graphics. I have played a wii and it is fun but I would prefer another system.

Fish: Does the PS3 have good online play or is it like the PS2?
the ps3's online works a lot better, it's not like xbox live but depending on the game can be as decent as online play for pc games.
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1. What the hell happend to Fish

2. Why the hell is this stickied and can a mod please Re-name the title to it's in proper spelling?
When did the sticky happen?

Xbox 360 = Many good FPS, and online games. HD graphics and 120gb MAX hard drive.
Wii = Fun, original games. No more memory cards (unless you play Gamecube games) and even the "kiddy" games that most of you call them are fun for all ages.
PS3 = Small library of games, few online games, 60gb MAX hard drive.

IMO, Xbox 360 and Wii is the way to go, but you don't want the Wii, so then go for the 360.
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lol I've played his Wii. Wii sports bored me the first night I played it. I beat zelda at his house on the Wii. Decent game but flicking my wrists doesnt make me want to buy a Wii. Ive played warrio ware or w/e its called. REALLY boring after the first week of playing it. Monkeyball was wayyyy better. I want to play the wii monkeyball but he doesnt want to buy it, but Im not going to sweat it. The reason I got a 360 over Wii is because I love playing games online. 360 online play is WAY better. Isnt like the only online Wii game mario strikers? I have that for gamecube. Guess what. Boring. Obviously this is all my opinion, but thats what he asked for. If he wanted the stats on each system he could have easily googled them. If you think your going to convince me that the Wii is worth buying at the moment then your wasting your own time. If you think you are going to convince the guy who made this thread, then your wasting your time.
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When did the sticky happen?

Xbox 360 = Many good FPS, and online games. HD graphics and 120gb MAX hard drive.
Wii = Fun, original games. No more memory cards (unless you play Gamecube games) and even the "kiddy" games that most of you call them are fun for all ages.
PS3 = Small library of games, few online games, 60gb MAX hard drive.

IMO, Xbox 360 and Wii is the way to go, but you don't want the Wii, so then go for the 360.

ddr_f4n, you have to be the most obvious 360 troll I've ever encountered on this forum. I've sat through enough of your posts to know this. This post just proved that. Let's analyze what you typed.

You say the 360 has many good FPS and online games. It has HD graphics and a console that has a 120GB HD. Ok, first off the 360 has only 1-3 good FPS and some of those are already ported to PC or PS3. 360 has XBLA so no problems there. The 360 has HD graphics. Wow. I don't mean to sound rude but are you a jackass? Of course it's going to have HD graphics. It's a next gen console for chrissake! That's like saying this model car has AC in it when all new cars have AC standard. Also, most 360 users will tell you Microsoft ripped them off by making the Elite when they already blew their money on the Premium 360.

Now with PS3 you said it has a small library of games and online games. Not true. The PS3 has a small library of exclusives. If you take a look at the PS3's game list, there are plenty of games to play, however they are all ports. PSN is releasing good arcade games such as Everyday Shooter for example. Also, if you knew anything that you thought you did, you would know the PS3 has an 80GB model.

If you are going to troll, at least tell the truth.

PS- By the way, don't forget the console failure rates.

Xbox 360 - 33%
PS3 - .02%
Wii - .02%
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Ok I may seem baised about my popinions about some of the systems, simply because I hate some systems over the other ones or Love one system above all... But still an opinion is an opinion... I dont expect all of you to agree with me in what Im about to say about these console but bear with the fact that I do not enjoy having to bash my favourite system or heavily bash one I hate, But I voice my opinion because I find it nesessary.

*Cough* Ahem.. Now down to Buisness... Which console Would Suit you better?

XBOX 360
Manufacturer: Microsoft
First Available: November 22, 2005
Media: DVD, DVD-DL, CD, Add-On: HD DVD
System storage: 20 or 120 GB hard drive, 64, 256 or 512 MB memory cards
Controller input: 4 maximum (wired or wireless or combination of either)
Connectivity: 3 × USB 2.0, IR port, 100Mbit Ethernet
Online service: Xbox Live

Notable Games: Halo 3, CoD 3, BioShock

OK come on seriously guys I really don't like the system at all.. Im glad they fixed the melting disc problem and all that but still games like Halo 3 and COD 3 piss me the **** off.. like come on... Halo 3 nothing was actually improved if you thing about it alot and I know how hard it is for some of you to do that with your prides hanging above all your judgement with the on-going competition between these systems. On a serious note sure some graphics in some games were good but not enough to convince me of its so great potential... Another thing that it came out WAY TOO EARLY... If it stayed in production longer it may have been more beneficial to them working out kinks and bugs with the progamming and such.. again raising the 33% failure rate stated in previous comments and posts... Alot of game of course but only a few rose above the rest and Im going to say that Halo 3 can eat it... That game can die in a really big napalm indused fire... Seriously all they did to it was make the Chief and Arbiter more flashy, Add a vehicle or two and buff up the graphics a bit... Like seriously none of this in my experiance raised the fun factor to this game or made it any more enjoyable like the first two... It was all straight forward and the plot was easily identifiable. Some games on the other hand were good and they know who they are*cough*Not Halo 3*cough*. Finally all the PS3 games that should be PS3 Exclusive (ie: Assassins Creed) and aren't due to microsoft's Whining adds to the piss me off factor and I believe that Microsoft should join Halo 3 in that fire over there...

Therefore my Opinon on XBOX 360 is... Dont get it unless your one of those Halo Fanboys... Otherwise just Get a better system.. or better yet stick with the PC they getting better anyways.

Playstation 3
Manufacturer: Sony, Foxconn and ASUSTeK for SCEI[1]
First available: November 11, 2006 (details)
Media: Blu-ray Disc, DVD, Compact Disc
Super Audio CD (20 GB, 60 GB, 80 GB models)
System storage: 2.5" SATA hard drive
(20 GB, 40 GB, 60 GB, or 80 GB included)
Controller: input Up to 7 wireless controllers
Memory input: MemoryStick/PRO/Duo*, SD/MMC*, CompactFlash/Microdrive*
Audio/video output:
HDMI 1.3a out
S/PDIF out
AV Multi out
RCA connector cable**
S-Video cable
SCART cable
AV Multi cable
Component video cable
D-Terminal cable
Other:
802.11b/g Wi-Fi*
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
4 × USB 2.0
Wired Ethernet

*60/80 GB versions only
**default cable
Online service PlayStation Network

Yeah ok so I went overboard with this one.. I thought this system had more to offer than the XBOX itself did minus the larger hardrive and such. Of course low selection of game for the time being till late Spring 2008 but more visually impressive games since the Blue-Ray disc has more storage on it to add much need boost to its graphic potentional. Yet, Of I admit the fact you need and HD tv to run your games to the max-Core but still I enjoy the fact of a SIXAXIS control and wireless net and free online play (Not sure if X live is free yet...) CoD 4 for the time being and Assassins Creed and Haze coming up will bide time for FFXIII Verus and MGS4 and other jaw dropping games will make it worthe wait.. Sure pricy but worth it in the end.

Therefore my opinion on the PS3 is... If you have the patience for the newer game titles coming out later and the money to blow, deffinately something to pick up...

Wii
Manufacturer: Nintendo
First available: November 19, 2006 (details)
CPU: IBM PowerPC-based[1] "Broadway"
GPU: ATI "Hollywood"
Media: 12 cm Wii Optical Disc
8 cm Nintendo GameCube Game Disc

System storage: 512 MiB Internal flash memory
Secure Digital card
Nintendo GameCube Memory Card
Controller input: Wii Remote, Nintendo GameCube Controller
Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
USB 2.0 x2
LAN Adapter (via USB)
Online service: Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
WiiConnect24
Virtual Console
Wii Menu

Alright Short, Quick and too the point.... Less costly, Some good games, Nice interactive controller, CONTROLLER THAT HURTS PEOPLE!, finally just something for the kids or yourself if your a lazy slob couch potato that cant make it out the door just for a run thats what the tennis and Red Steel and other games are for.

My Opinion: Just as I stated bove.. If your not into the Higher end systems heres something for you guys.. Just try no to hurt yourselves with the controller eh?


OK well that about wraps it up for me of course love it hate I dun care... You must be sick of reading this anyways my Final words are some systems kicks more ass that others just be sure to pick the right one before you find yourself questioning yourself why you suck so mucha nd why your friend laugh at you for having the opposite system to theirs cause your some gay *** or soemthing. Your Choice just make sure you take into consideration that it might haunt you in the end.
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Ok I may seem baised about my popinions about some of the systems, simply because I hate some systems over the other ones or Love one system above all... But still an opinion is an opinion... I dont expect all of you to agree with me in what Im about to say about these console but bear with the fact that I do not enjoy having to bash my favourite system or heavily bash one I hate, But I voice my opinion because I find it nesessary.

*Cough* Ahem.. Now down to Buisness... Which console Would Suit you better?

XBOX 360
Manufacturer: Microsoft
First Available: November 22, 2005
Media: DVD, DVD-DL, CD, Add-On: HD DVD
System storage: 20 or 120 GB hard drive, 64, 256 or 512 MB memory cards
Controller input: 4 maximum (wired or wireless or combination of either)
Connectivity: 3 × USB 2.0, IR port, 100Mbit Ethernet
Online service: Xbox Live

Notable Games: Halo 3, CoD 3, BioShock

OK come on seriously guys I really don't like the system at all.. Im glad they fixed the melting disc problem and all that but still games like Halo 3 and COD 3 piss me the **** off.. like come on... Halo 3 nothing was actually improved if you thing about it alot and I know how hard it is for some of you to do that with your prides hanging above all your judgement with the on-going competition between these systems. On a serious note sure some graphics in some games were good but not enough to convince me of its so great potential... Another thing that it came out WAY TOO EARLY... If it stayed in production longer it may have been more beneficial to them working out kinks and bugs with the progamming and such.. again raising the 33% failure rate stated in previous comments and posts... Alot of game of course but only a few rose above the rest and Im going to say that Halo 3 can eat it... That game can die in a really big napalm indused fire... Seriously all they did to it was make the Chief and Arbiter more flashy, Add a vehicle or two and buff up the graphics a bit... Like seriously none of this in my experiance raised the fun factor to this game or made it any more enjoyable like the first two... It was all straight forward and the plot was easily identifiable. Some games on the other hand were good and they know who they are*cough*Not Halo 3*cough*. Finally all the PS3 games that should be PS3 Exclusive (ie: Assassins Creed) and aren't due to microsoft's Whining adds to the piss me off factor and I believe that Microsoft should join Halo 3 in that fire over there...

Therefore my Opinon on XBOX 360 is... Dont get it unless your one of those Halo Fanboys... Otherwise just Get a better system.. or better yet stick with the PC they getting better anyways.

Playstation 3
Manufacturer: Sony, Foxconn and ASUSTeK for SCEI[1]
First available: November 11, 2006 (details)
Media: Blu-ray Disc, DVD, Compact Disc
Super Audio CD (20 GB, 60 GB, 80 GB models)
System storage: 2.5" SATA hard drive
(20 GB, 40 GB, 60 GB, or 80 GB included)
Controller: input Up to 7 wireless controllers
Memory input: MemoryStick/PRO/Duo*, SD/MMC*, CompactFlash/Microdrive*
Audio/video output:
HDMI 1.3a out
S/PDIF out
AV Multi out
RCA connector cable**
S-Video cable
SCART cable
AV Multi cable
Component video cable
D-Terminal cable
Other:
802.11b/g Wi-Fi*
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
4 × USB 2.0
Wired Ethernet

*60/80 GB versions only
**default cable
Online service PlayStation Network

Yeah ok so I went overboard with this one.. I thought this system had more to offer than the XBOX itself did minus the larger hardrive and such. Of course low selection of game for the time being till late Spring 2008 but more visually impressive games since the Blue-Ray disc has more storage on it to add much need boost to its graphic potentional. Yet, Of I admit the fact you need and HD tv to run your games to the max-Core but still I enjoy the fact of a SIXAXIS control and wireless net and free online play (Not sure if X live is free yet...) CoD 4 for the time being and Assassins Creed and Haze coming up will bide time for FFXIII Verus and MGS4 and other jaw dropping games will make it worthe wait.. Sure pricy but worth it in the end.

Therefore my opinion on the PS3 is... If you have the patience for the newer game titles coming out later and the money to blow, deffinately something to pick up...

Wii
Manufacturer: Nintendo
First available: November 19, 2006 (details)
CPU: IBM PowerPC-based[1] "Broadway"
GPU: ATI "Hollywood"
Media: 12 cm Wii Optical Disc
8 cm Nintendo GameCube Game Disc

System storage: 512 MiB Internal flash memory
Secure Digital card
Nintendo GameCube Memory Card
Controller input: Wii Remote, Nintendo GameCube Controller
Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
USB 2.0 x2
LAN Adapter (via USB)
Online service: Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
WiiConnect24
Virtual Console
Wii Menu

Alright Short, Quick and too the point.... Less costly, Some good games, Nice interactive controller, CONTROLLER THAT HURTS PEOPLE!, finally just something for the kids or yourself if your a lazy slob couch potato that cant make it out the door just for a run thats what the tennis and Red Steel and other games are for.

My Opinion: Just as I stated bove.. If your not into the Higher end systems heres something for you guys.. Just try no to hurt yourselves with the controller eh?


OK well that about wraps it up for me of course love it hate I dun care... You must be sick of reading this anyways my Final words are some systems kicks more ass that others just be sure to pick the right one before you find yourself questioning yourself why you suck so mucha nd why your friend laugh at you for having the opposite system to theirs cause your some gay *** or soemthing. Your Choice just make sure you take into consideration that it might haunt you in the end.


That is the most ridiculously biased arguement I have ever seen.
First of all, only an idiot could possibly hurt themselves with a Wii controller.




Second, Xbox 360 has a hell of a lot more than just Halo 3.
I hate Halo 3, and I like my 360.
And you didn't even mention XBLA, which right now has easily the best game downloads.
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^ nice.

Edit:meant liquids post. of course it was biased, he was posting his opinion but at least he gave his reasons behind them.
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Alright Short, Quick and too the point.... Less costly, Some good games, Nice interactive controller, CONTROLLER THAT HURTS PEOPLE!, finally just something for the kids or yourself if your a lazy slob couch potato that cant make it out the door just for a run thats what the tennis and Red Steel and other games are for.
I'm neither a kid or a lazy slob. Before you say you never called me a lazy slob or a kid. I believe you just did. The Nintendo is kiddy argument is tired and proven wrong so many times before, anyone who still says that to this day shouldn't be taken seriously in any console debate.

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I was kinda leaning towards this before but I think I'm getting a 360. I understand and it cheeses me when people rip on PS3's small library as Xbox as a year on them but I'm looking for online play almost completely.

Two more questions which won't change my opinion but I want to know:

1. My friend said the PS3 can be used as a fully functional computer with word processor ect. I don't think this is true and if is, is this done with that Linux thing you can do with Xbox? (btw...how do you do that)

2. To get internet for your Xbox360 can you simply hook up an enthernet cable to a laptop with active WLAN?
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