What Counsel Should I Get? - Page 4

**Squeek** · 11-9-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fido123

Looks like I'm getting a 360. More comments on multiplayer would be nice

@Squeek, Name 10 good shooters for Game Cube right now...Nintendo doesn't like them >_>
Metriod Primes don't count because it's all like "Space station, awesome sci-fi...wtf, why the hell am I in the wilderness now?". Even the one that took place entirely in the space station (Fusion) was mostly in the wilderness. I was thinking "Great, it's finally a real good Sci-fi shoot em up now...oh wai...wtf...srs...christ...The space station is where they keep animals in their natural habitat *throws game out the window*"

sjoecool1991 · 11-9-2007, 12:21 PM

All the Resident Evil games were amazing.
Worth getting.

l2awr · 11-9-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

Why would you spend 200 bucks to play any of those games? rofl. I could just go to a friends house and waste my time rather than waste 200 bucks. Im sure he could too

SethSquall · 11-9-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by l2awr

Why would you spend 200 bucks to play any of those games? rofl. I could just go to a friends house and waste my time rather than waste 200 bucks. Im sure he could too

What? I could say the same about ever other console. What's the matter with you?

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Originally Posted by fido123

FFS I don't want a ****ing wii. I don't like SSB Brawl, I don't like Mario Galaxy and I don't like any of their other games but Twilight Princess but I have that for my GambCube.

Christ Guys

Most of us aren't trying to make buy one you idiot. Seriously. The only reason people are standing by the Wii is becuase every anti Wii statement here said by you and everyone else has been the same ignorant tired old ammo that's been fired at the console for ****ing ages, although, evidently the console has been soaring through same **** for a year and still remains a very popular console that's clean as a whistle. Yes it has it's faults but it's hardly anything mentioned here.

Now, I know you put down some ground rules, which we understand and respect, we're just trying to give you a little more advice and direction through our OPINION than Jimmy 360 above me who's been spewing the same crap for 3 pages. It's your disrespect for our opinion that makes us so when your the one who wants fucking help.

Now, that being said between PS3 and 360 I think you'll be right where you feel most at home and happy with if you go with the 360.

l2awr · 11-10-2007, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SethSquall

What? I could say the same about ever other console. What's the matter with you?

Most of us aren't trying to make buy one you idiot. Seriously. The only reason people are standing by the Wii is becuase every anti Wii statement here said by you and everyone else has been the same ignorant tired old ammo that's been fired at the console for ****ing ages, although, evidently the console has been soaring through same **** for a year and still remains a very popular console that's clean as a whistle. Yes it has it's faults but it's hardly anything mentioned here.

Now, I know you put down some ground rules, which we understand and respect, we're just trying to give you a little more advice and direction through our OPINION than Jimmy 360 above me who's been spewing the same crap for 3 pages. It's your disrespect for our opinion that makes us so when your the one who wants fucking help.

Now, that being said between PS3 and 360 I think you'll be right where you feel most at home and happy with if you go with the 360.

Those games arent on other counsels?

toxicninja · 11-10-2007, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

Ok. Then name ten decent FPSes on Xbox 360. Go ahead. Do it.

i dont know why im arguing for someone else but you're arguement is bugging me:

Call of Duty 2: Game of the Year Edition
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Darkness, The
Doom
F.E.A.R.
Halo 3
Medal of Honour: Airborne
The orange box
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Perfect Dark Zero
BioShock
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

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Originally Posted by Squeek

FPSes belong on PCs. I can name about 25 great FPSes on PC and about 100 more crappy ones.

not always, it's easy to say that because of the generally better control scheme and the large amount of games for the pc, but then theres obvious classics like goldeneye and turok which just wouldnt be the same on the pc.

Edit:
from reading the TC's posts i think he should just get a 360, i dont have one so i'm not trying to push it out of a sense of loyalty but i think thats what he wants so he should just get that. this topic's just turned into a fanboy flamewar, i've seen more civil and ballenced topics at gamefaqs for crying out loud.

Masterofpirates · 11-10-2007, 11:27 AM

**Squeek** · 11-10-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by toxicninja

i dont know why im arguing for someone else but you're arguement is bugging me:

Call of Duty 2: Game of the Year Edition
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Darkness, The
Doom
F.E.A.R.
Halo 3
Medal of Honour: Airborne
The orange box
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Perfect Dark Zero
BioShock
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

I said decent. As in "good". Most of those games suck. I wouldn't even consider buying them on PC. BioShock, TOB, and CoD4 are the only three good shooters on the 360. If you're crazy then you include Halo 3 and maybe FEAR.

Half of the games on that list didn't break into the 9/10 range. Some were even 7/10s.

And I don't understand Metacritic. For some reason, all Xbox 360 games are rated higher than Wii games. Like, there are four games in Wii with average scores in the 90s and eight in the 80s, which means everything else is in 70s and below. That strikes me as incredibly odd. Even Wii Sports is down in the 70s.

Edit: Ah, I get it. I should check the user scores to compare to "official reviewer" scores. Wii Sports has a 74 on Metacritic, but the users give it a 90. I think I trust the latter rather than the former.

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not always, it's easy to say that because of the generally better control scheme and the large amount of games for the pc, but then theres obvious classics like goldeneye and turok which just wouldnt be the same on the pc.

I don't understand why everyone still thinks Goldeneye is the greatest shooter ever made. It isn't. It's something I call "nostalgiac arbitrary boosting". Your memories of the game are made better by the fact that you haven't played it in a long time and that other people walk around saying it's the best FPS on a console, ever. Goldeneye was not that great. If someone was shooting you from behind, it would be like two years until you could spin around to find out who it was. RCP-90 was the only good gun and whoever had it pretty much won unless you turned rockets / golden gun on. There was only one fun level to play in Multiplayer and with multiplayer, they blacked out your surrounding area since they couldn't display it all on a crappy processor like the one in the n64, so you couldn't even see that far.

Apply my theory to any game you hear people talk about being better than a modern game. People still say Super Mario Bros. is the greatest platformer ever made. Heck no! It was the most fun to us because it was the first time we ever got to play something like that! Just like Goldeneye. And by the way, Super Mario Bros. 3 was better than the original. I don't know if I can call it the best platformer, but it's certainly up there. The same goes for Super Mario 64. That was a pretty terrible game. We all ogled over it because it was the first time we got to play a real game in real 3D. All other 3D games were terrible compared to this. Reviewers are saying that they're pulling another SMB 1, 2, 3 combo here. SMB 1 was awesome and we all have nostalgia of it. SMB 2 sucked and we all hated it. SMB 3 was even better than SMB. So, boost it up a few years. SM64, for whatever reason, was well-liked. Super Mario Sunshine, for whatever reason, wasn't. (I actually liked Sunshine a lot more than SM64.) Super Mario Galaxy is being called the best of the three.

SethSquall · 11-10-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by toxicninja

i dont know why im arguing for someone else but you're arguement is bugging me:

Call of Duty 2: Game of the Year Edition Yawn, another COD
Call of Duty 3 Yawn Another COD
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Yawn, Another COD
Darkness, As far as FPS goes, it was terrible, good story though.
Doom Pretty good at what it did
F.E.A.R. Was pretty good at what it did
Halo 3 Over rated and biggest Yawn here
Medal of Honour: Airborne Yawn
The orange box Best Game in this List, Almost multiplatform
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie What?
Perfect Dark Zero Yawn
BioShock Overrated Yawn
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat.Yawn

Yawn

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Originally Posted by l2awr

Those games arent on other counsels?

Agian, what? Dear God I think you've topped your last one. Do you understand now?

I tell you what, say your last two statements again but this time, think as if you where behind Sony or Nintendo.

I'll do it for you.

Imagine this, I've just listed loads of Xbox FPS games.

"Why would you spend 400 bucks to play any of those games? rofl. I could just go to a friends house and waste my time rather than waste 400 bucks. Im sure he could too"

Am I getting through to you at all?

de1337 · 11-10-2007, 01:14 PM

console

ddr_f4n · 11-10-2007, 02:04 PM

MP is all good, and Xbox 360 is the system with the most online games now. The ideal system for online gameplay. PS3 is not since not many games is meant for MP and online gameplay.

Wii is good too, but the downside is that you can't talk to others, Wii friend codes are a pain to enter, and you don't like the Wii. But it is still a good system as well.

l2awr · 11-10-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SethSquall

Yawn

Agian, what? Dear God I think you've topped your last one. Do you understand now?

I tell you what, say your last two statements again but this time, think as if you where behind Sony or Nintendo.

I'll do it for you.

Imagine this, I've just listed loads of Xbox FPS games.

"Why would you spend 400 bucks to play any of those games? rofl. I could just go to a friends house and waste my time rather than waste 400 bucks. Im sure he could too"

Am I getting through to you at all?

Because they are good games. Incase you couldnt pick that up 2 posts ago, I was saying most of the games he listed sucked and are not worth buying a system for, not to mention you can expect MANY more amazing games to come out for 360 and just like the gamecube Im sure not MANY more amazing games will be coming out for the Wii. If ssb and the other classic nintendo games were on any other system I would say fk nintendo

fido123 · 11-10-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ddr_f4n

MP is all good, and Xbox 360 is the system with the most online games now. The ideal system for online gameplay. PS3 is not since not many games is meant for MP and online gameplay.

Wii is good too, but the downside is that you can't talk to others, Wii friend codes are a pain to enter, and you don't like the Wii. But it is still a good system as well.

Jesus Christ I was just looking for an aswner like this. Thank you!

The reasons why I got pissed of when people repetitively said wii was because over and over again I was saying I don't want one for reasons ddr_f4n said and the only shooters are cross-platform. The only one I like was RE4 and that's now for PS2. So I think I'm convinced for a 360 right now...

l2awr · 11-10-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fido123

Jesus Christ I was just looking for an aswner like this. Thank you!

The reasons why I got pissed of when people repetitively said wii was because over and over again I was saying I don't want one for reasons ddr_f4n said and the only shooters are cross-platform. The only one I like was RE4 and that's now for PS2. So I think I'm convinced for a 360 right now...

Also I heard shooters on Wii were very buggy and hard to aim with the remote. Im sure they can be fun, but not for competitive play

**Squeek** · 11-10-2007, 03:02 PM

Shooter*.

Red Steel. Only one.

Play any other FPS or pointer-based game. They all work just fine.

Also, I'm tired of you saying "I heard" all the time. Why don't you find out for yourself?

l2awr · 11-10-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

Shooter*.

Red Steel. Only one.

Play any other FPS or pointer-based game. They all work just fine.

Also, I'm tired of you saying "I heard" all the time. Why don't you find out for yourself?

Because I trust my friends judgement. I would trust my friend before I trust a bias kid like you

Ravia · 11-10-2007, 04:21 PM

I think full mental counsel should suit you fine. ^^

(Jk)

But seriously, it really all depends on the genre of games you enjoy most.

fido123 · 11-10-2007, 04:22 PM

Red Steel was a fairly good game. There wen't any avoidable bugs I could see when I played it...it's just when your wii controller goes off the edge of the sensor range you keep turning in that direction no matter what you do until you get back in the range.

SethSquall · 11-11-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by l2awr

Because they are good games. Incase you couldnt pick that up 2 posts ago, I was saying most of the games he listed sucked and are not worth buying a system for, not to mention you can expect MANY more amazing games to come out for 360 and just like the gamecube Im sure not MANY more amazing games will be coming out for the Wii. If ssb and the other classic nintendo games were on any other system I would say fk nintendo

Ok I tried, I really did. There is no hope for you what so ever.

But once again, I could say the SAME FUCKING THING about the XBOX games. You really are mentally disabled. Do you understand that your word is nothing more than your opinion, or worse, your friends opinion. Not even yours from what I hear.

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Originally Posted by l2awr

Because I trust my friends judgement. I would trust my friend before I trust a bias kid like you

Listen to yourself. Seriously. Your calling Squeek bias. You're a fool. He's brought more to this debate than your "No Xbox rules your wrong my friend is right wii sucks i can go play over my mates lol there is no such thing as opinion i am righht you are wrong lol"

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Originally Posted by l2awr

Also I heard shooters on Wii were very buggy and hard to aim with the remote. Im sure they can be fun, but not for competitive play

You heard. Oh right. Well hear this. There not. Red Steel was a little bit. However, if you've ever aimed with the Bow in Zelda, played Wii Play Shooting games, Call of Duty 3, Far Cry and some other stuff I can't think of right now then you would would know that the aiming is perfect. You couldn't get any better. It's more or less on Par with using a mouse. You point and shoot. It's that easy.

**Squeek** · 11-11-2007, 11:03 AM

You say all these things because you know absolutely nothing about Wii. It's obvious to me now.

Next time you go to your friend's house, ask to play the Wii instead of the 360. Come on, you can play Halo against each other any time.

Here's the kicker: You have to do it without a bias.

You have no right whatsoever to say anything is good or bad without actually using it. I can say that I think the Halo franchise sucks because I've played through the campaigns of the first two and found it very boring. I can say that FPSes belong on PCs because in my experience, the controls have always been much better on a spread-out keyboard than on a cramped controller. I can say I have no reason to get a 360 because I've actually been keeping up with all the games released and expressed interest in a few. Those few games are being ported to PC. Therefore, no need to drop $400 on a console with a 33% failure rate.

I don't even have a big-screen TV, let alone an HDTV. What good would a 360 do for me? My computer monitor outclasses my TV. Obviously, I put more focus on my PC than my television.

See, unlike you, I actually understand that the console I don't want will have games on it that seem interesting. So far, Gears of War has really been the only game. As of last week, I've been able to enjoy that on my PC. I'm hoping Fable 2 sees a PC release, which it probably will, because Fable was an awesome game. Nothing else on the 360 draws my interest. Perfect Dark sucked, Dead Rising is impossible, Saint's Row is a GTA knock-off (and GTA isn't that good either), Bioshock is on PC (but I haven't played it because it looks boring), and that's it. Every other game has been pathetically low in sales. The only other reason for a 360 is the Arcade, which doesn't appeal to me because I own most of the re-releases they're putting out. Including Ikaruga.

Why did I buy Wii? Is it because I'm teh ninteend0 fanboi???!11 Is it because I worship the ground that Miyamoto walks on? No. It's the system with the games. I already have more Wii games than I do PS2 games, and most of them are better than those PS2 games. I really only bought a PS2 because Namco-Bandai refused to release Tales of the Abyss on Gamecube. Oh, and for Katamari. Those are really the only PS2 games worth having. Compare that to the 42 Gamecube games I own. At least half of them were solid games that I played through at least a second time. Nintendo's consoles have a history of having a huge library of solid games (with the exception of n64 which sucked in this aspect). At E3 2006, I saw that Microsoft was just going "lol gears of war / halo 3" and Sony was going "were not interested in gimmicks hey check out our knock-off of the wiimote and this crappy card game gimmick ps BLU RAAYYYYYYY". Then I saw Nintendo's show, which was "hey check out this awesome new toy and all the software we already have lined up for it. ps it'll be about $200 cheaper than the competition. pps it'll come with a free game. ppps that game will be awesome."

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Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: What Counsel Should I Get? Shooter*. Red Steel. Only one. Play any other FPS or pointer-based game. They all work just fine. Also, I'm tired of you saying "I heard" all the time. Why don't you find out for yourself?

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fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: What Counsel Should I Get? Red Steel was a fairly good game. There wen't any avoidable bugs I could see when I played it...it's just when your wii controller goes off the edge of the sensor range you keep turning in that direction no matter what you do until you get back in the range.

11-11-2007, 11:03 AM	#80
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: What Counsel Should I Get? You say all these things because you know absolutely nothing about Wii. It's obvious to me now. Next time you go to your friend's house, ask to play the Wii instead of the 360. Come on, you can play Halo against each other any time. Here's the kicker: You have to do it without a bias. You have no right whatsoever to say anything is good or bad without actually using it. I can say that I think the Halo franchise sucks because I've played through the campaigns of the first two and found it very boring. I can say that FPSes belong on PCs because in my experience, the controls have always been much better on a spread-out keyboard than on a cramped controller. I can say I have no reason to get a 360 because I've actually been keeping up with all the games released and expressed interest in a few. Those few games are being ported to PC. Therefore, no need to drop $400 on a console with a 33% failure rate. I don't even have a big-screen TV, let alone an HDTV. What good would a 360 do for me? My computer monitor outclasses my TV. Obviously, I put more focus on my PC than my television. See, unlike you, I actually understand that the console I don't want will have games on it that seem interesting. So far, Gears of War has really been the only game. As of last week, I've been able to enjoy that on my PC. I'm hoping Fable 2 sees a PC release, which it probably will, because Fable was an awesome game. Nothing else on the 360 draws my interest. Perfect Dark sucked, Dead Rising is impossible, Saint's Row is a GTA knock-off (and GTA isn't that good either), Bioshock is on PC (but I haven't played it because it looks boring), and that's it. Every other game has been pathetically low in sales. The only other reason for a 360 is the Arcade, which doesn't appeal to me because I own most of the re-releases they're putting out. Including Ikaruga. Why did I buy Wii? Is it because I'm teh ninteend0 fanboi???!11 Is it because I worship the ground that Miyamoto walks on? No. It's the system with the games. I already have more Wii games than I do PS2 games, and most of them are better than those PS2 games. I really only bought a PS2 because Namco-Bandai refused to release Tales of the Abyss on Gamecube. Oh, and for Katamari. Those are really the only PS2 games worth having. Compare that to the 42 Gamecube games I own. At least half of them were solid games that I played through at least a second time. Nintendo's consoles have a history of having a huge library of solid games (with the exception of n64 which sucked in this aspect). At E3 2006, I saw that Microsoft was just going "lol gears of war / halo 3" and Sony was going "were not interested in gimmicks hey check out our knock-off of the wiimote and this crappy card game gimmick ps BLU RAAYYYYYYY". Then I saw Nintendo's show, which was "hey check out this awesome new toy and all the software we already have lined up for it. ps it'll be about $200 cheaper than the competition. pps it'll come with a free game. ppps that game will be awesome." Last edited by Squeek; 11-11-2007 at 11:16 AM..

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