TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread - Updated 7/8/09 - Page 94

**gnr61** · 10-22-2007, 08:58 PM

No, kick out visions because it has no place on the list. It is too easy, the only reason it's a tough AAA is because of it's length. its not even a -low- challenging, let alone the high challenging the tier list is calling for these days.

though I suppose Max Forever and GO! (especially GO!, rotten piece of offbeat crap) also do fit in this criteria.

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 10-23-2007, 01:54 AM

Visions is pretty worth whoring than Max forever or endless dream. Visions should stay cuz of that rolls.

**cetaka** · 10-23-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnr61

No, kick out visions because it has no place on the list. It is too easy, the only reason it's a tough AAA is because of it's length. its not even a -low- challenging, let alone the high challenging the tier list is calling for these days.

though I suppose Max Forever and GO! (especially GO!, rotten piece of offbeat crap) also do fit in this criteria.

ok i could say this about every single song over 2:30 since the chance of my computer taking an uncontrollable diarrhea **** all over itself during this time period is very, very likely.

hey guys

the only reason every single song on the tier points list is hard is because of framers

MrRubix · 10-23-2007, 05:05 PM

Just keep them.

Engler · 10-23-2007, 05:05 PM

Cetaker speaks the truth.

**gnr61** · 10-23-2007, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetaka

ok i could say this about every single song over 2:30 since the chance of my computer taking an uncontrollable diarrhea **** all over itself during this time period is very, very likely.

hey guys

the only reason every single song on the tier points list is hard is because of framers

except that without its length, visions actually ISN'T hard. songs on the list that have framers are actually hard, and framers just add to that difficulty.

long but easy = no good

long but hard = good

etc

**cetaka** · 10-23-2007, 05:08 PM

ok but what I'm saying is that, for me, that applies to every single long non-11 or 12 song that I haven't AAA'd yet

**gnr61** · 10-23-2007, 05:11 PM

lol ok you got me

i want visions off the list cuz i cant aaa it

same for GO!. seriously that song is horrible.

**cetaka** · 10-23-2007, 05:17 PM

besides if jimerax or rebirth had any intention of not putting ****ing stupid files like love colored master spark on the tier list, why would they even be in game?

**ninjafury** · 10-23-2007, 05:20 PM

I like visions since I AAA'd it on a lucky run and it gives 4 tier points! Not bad for a VD song! Also keep Deep Breath or whatever its called since I AAA'd that too xD

stlunatic0124 · 10-23-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRubix

Just keep them.

qft there's like 20 songs that could or could not be on the list

MrRubix · 10-23-2007, 06:39 PM

Yeah I mean a song can be "hard" for various reasons, whether it be length, types of steps, framers, etc. I think these songs all have their valid points. Why not just keep them on? The only ones that we should remove are the ones that everyone can agree are too easy to be any real gauge of variegated skill.

stlunatic0124 · 10-23-2007, 06:51 PM

skelly bones is hard. i CAN'T aaa it.

legoboy792 · 10-23-2007, 08:04 PM

nether can i shellybones ins impossible

**dore** · 10-23-2007, 08:27 PM

For songs that are only hard in one section, decrease the point spread. Make the reqs something like (and I'm just pulling this out of my ass):

4-AAA
2-1 good

and leave it at that. If there's only one difficult measure in a song, reward the players for that section and assume they can AAA the rest.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 10-23-2007, 09:07 PM

Oh don't kick out songs from the list. I can give you reasons for everyone of them.

Deep Breath, Fast rolls at the beginning, and framers in the mid.
Sensorium, Long, lots of odd patterns a slow JS at the end.
GO!, Offbeat yes, But it has jacks in the middle that are worth keeping as well as a bunch of other odd patterns.
Visions, Rolls, 24th staircase. The entire file is easy, but it's got like 5000 roll sections. I autofailed like 15 notes from the end.
Endless dream Harder than CIA, It's faster. CIA should go before this does.

They should stay as 4's

besides,throwing objectivity out the window for the moment, the only reason I whored those songs for the AAA is because they were worth points. Makes the whoring less meaningful =(

Masterofpirates · 10-23-2007, 09:11 PM

Don't take off Max Forever, it's way harder to FC than most challenging songs, not to mention get -20 goods.

**Sprite-** · 10-23-2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnr61

lol ok you got me

i want visions off the list cuz i cant aaa it

same for GO!. seriously that song is horrible.

that is the worst and most selfish reason to give to take the file off.

heyitsmee · 10-23-2007, 09:30 PM

"Endless dream Harder than CIA, It's faster. CIA should go before this does."

i can AAA Endless dream i got a BF manytimes for me CIA is harder its hard keeping away from goods

**DarkManticoreX2** · 10-23-2007, 09:53 PM

The only reason you have trouble with CIA rave is it's a frame offbeat in like 4 places, and it's all blue.

10-22-2007, 08:58 PM	#1861
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 35 Posts: 7,251	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread No, kick out visions because it has no place on the list. It is too easy, the only reason it's a tough AAA is because of it's length. its not even a -low- challenging, let alone the high challenging the tier list is calling for these days. though I suppose Max Forever and GO! (especially GO!, rotten piece of offbeat crap) also do fit in this criteria. __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

10-23-2007, 01:54 AM	#1862
CR_fLiP_fOaM FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,479	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread Visions is pretty worth whoring than Max forever or endless dream. Visions should stay cuz of that rolls. __________________ "This better not be Snowbound again" Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it.

10-23-2007, 05:05 PM	#1864
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread Just keep them.

10-23-2007, 05:05 PM	#1865
Engler FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CNY Age: 33 Posts: 2,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread Cetaker speaks the truth. __________________

10-23-2007, 05:08 PM	#1867
cetaka Dark Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,550	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread ok but what I'm saying is that, for me, that applies to every single long non-11 or 12 song that I haven't AAA'd yet __________________

10-23-2007, 05:11 PM	#1868
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 35 Posts: 7,251	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread lol ok you got me i want visions off the list cuz i cant aaa it same for GO!. seriously that song is horrible. __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

10-23-2007, 05:17 PM	#1869
cetaka Dark Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,550	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread besides if jimerax or rebirth had any intention of not putting ****ing stupid files like love colored master spark on the tier list, why would they even be in game? __________________

10-23-2007, 05:20 PM	#1870
ninjafury Liquidsmooth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 36 Posts: 563	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread I like visions since I AAA'd it on a lucky run and it gives 4 tier points! Not bad for a VD song! Also keep Deep Breath or whatever its called since I AAA'd that too xD __________________ Half Asian Half White, 100% Whasian

10-23-2007, 06:39 PM	#1872
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread Yeah I mean a song can be "hard" for various reasons, whether it be length, types of steps, framers, etc. I think these songs all have their valid points. Why not just keep them on? The only ones that we should remove are the ones that everyone can agree are too easy to be any real gauge of variegated skill.

10-23-2007, 06:51 PM	#1873
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread skelly bones is hard. i CAN'T aaa it. __________________

10-23-2007, 08:04 PM	#1874
legoboy792 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: do you really want to know? Posts: 164	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread nether can i shellybones ins impossible __________________ Click for credits

10-23-2007, 08:27 PM	#1875
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 35 Posts: 6,317	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread For songs that are only hard in one section, decrease the point spread. Make the reqs something like (and I'm just pulling this out of my ass): 4-AAA 2-1 good and leave it at that. If there's only one difficult measure in a song, reward the players for that section and assume they can AAA the rest. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-23-2007, 09:11 PM	#1877
Masterofpirates FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Red Wing MN Posts: 144	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread Don't take off Max Forever, it's way harder to FC than most challenging songs, not to mention get -20 goods.

10-23-2007, 09:30 PM	#1879
heyitsmee FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 2,042	Re: TOP Players / Tier Requirements Thread "Endless dream Harder than CIA, It's faster. CIA should go before this does." i can AAA Endless dream i got a BF manytimes for me CIA is harder its hard keeping away from goods __________________ Last edited by heyitsmee; 10-23-2007 at 09:45 PM..

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