Any tips for index?

TehUberRaVe · 10-15-2007, 05:10 PM

I've been playing FFR for about two years now but I just recently switched to index, about a month ago. I can FC difficult and very difficult songs, but I was wondering if anyone had any tips or anything that would help me with my indexing, Anything would be appreciated. Thanks

spinal_compression · 10-15-2007, 05:30 PM

Learn your patters. Play spread.

beaner692 · 10-15-2007, 05:40 PM

I agree with Spinal, learn how to play FFR instead of Index. The best and easiest way to play FFR is spread. If you want to be super manly and play Index then I would play with middle finger on up arrow and down arrow, other two fingers on left and right.

TehUberRaVe · 10-15-2007, 05:42 PM

Thanks for trying to help but I'd rather play index I find it's the most fun for me.

beaner692 · 10-15-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner692

If you want to be super manly and play Index then I would play with middle finger on up arrow and down arrow, other two fingers on left and right.

That help is extravagant.

**gogohappiness** · 10-15-2007, 05:46 PM

I think that a lot of people are against us indexers.
I have always played index because that's what I am comfortable with.
I don't really know what to tell you for advice.
People say that screen shrinking helps but it doesn't for me.
do you have problems with streaming doubles?

**customstuff** · 10-15-2007, 05:55 PM

Practice, btw I'm an indexer too.

reddarkd · 10-15-2007, 06:10 PM

I've always played FFR with index fingers.. I never really had any problems (Other than side streams)

Xx{Midnight}xX · 10-15-2007, 06:14 PM

Always played index, my advice is practice so much your finer goes numb. I play with my middle fingers only, starting on the left and right arrows. I have to recoment a good song to practice fast hand movment is max forever especaly the trills, nightmare yes, god practice you bet. I know some one who while learning he played max forever like 5 times in a row before a rest.

jecht3009046 · 10-15-2007, 06:20 PM

If you're going to play index, practice songs like {Firestorm} to get used to jumpstreams. Firestorm is a pretty low BPM, so the jumpstreams aren't complete hell. Once you can easily FC (with a good PA) Firestorm, then quicker jumpstreams (in the 170-190 range) shouldnt be too hard. Constant jumpstreams at 180+ bpm is...well...not something you'll get used to any time soon.
Other than jumpstreams, awkward patterns are a major index killer. Spins and similar steps that require using the same finger twice take some time to get used to. Once you can easily combo high bpm streams, then awkward patters at a lower bpm seem to come naturally.
Other than those two things, index is close to as good as spread, but if you ever plan to get really low rankings, then spread is the way to go. Unless you're nima or kota, or a few other index players.

**Xiaounlimited** · 10-15-2007, 06:38 PM

Nima plays spread/3f, does he not? Because there's no way in hell an indexer can AA/AAA spread songs like he does.

Danman123 · 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM

Rondo Alla Turca, Rondo Alla Turca v2, and Revolutionary Etude are good to practice crossovers. They're not too fast and their "crossover streams" aren't too long.

**dore** · 10-15-2007, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaounlimited

Nima plays spread/3f, does he not? Because there's no way in hell an indexer can AA/AAA spread songs like he does.

He plays everything. But some of his better timing scores are index (like 10 Marv AAAA on Blue Army wtf).

Engler · 10-15-2007, 07:20 PM

Play songs that an indexers like you and I have an extremely difficult time with (Gaussian Blur, {Frozen}, etc.

**EnR** · 10-15-2007, 07:26 PM

Play songs with really fast streams, strange program, vertex, montrous turtles, dont bother with crossovers, if ur gunna cross over misewell start playing spread, since crossing over is VERY difficult to learn

shad0wlord · 10-15-2007, 07:58 PM

Play more Stepmania (jumpstreams and faster streams).

**Kotarouchan** · 10-15-2007, 08:05 PM

I agree with playing SM, because you can also practice things that you can't here, it's also fun playing songs above 221 BPM.

TehUberRaVe · 10-15-2007, 08:56 PM

Thanks alot for your help guys, oh and do you think playing on 1.25x would help or is that too noobish?

Edit: Any tips for hand placement?

jecht3009046 · 10-15-2007, 09:37 PM

I play index (if I didn't state in my above post) with my wrists at the edge of the desk. It feels more relaxed and natural. Plus, I can hit streams more accurately and faster. That's just me though.

shad0wlord · 10-16-2007, 02:36 PM

I'd say work on your speed on stepmania as well up to c600, which would place you around x1.75 on FFR.

As for hand placement, edge of desk as said above. My varation of that, which I do, is just having my forearm of my right hand on part of the desk on which my computer sits (its in a L-shape.)

10-15-2007, 05:10 PM	#1
TehUberRaVe FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	Any tips for index? I've been playing FFR for about two years now but I just recently switched to index, about a month ago. I can FC difficult and very difficult songs, but I was wondering if anyone had any tips or anything that would help me with my indexing, Anything would be appreciated. Thanks __________________ Index ftw.

10-15-2007, 05:40 PM	#3
beaner692 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California Age: 34 Posts: 1,071	Re: Any tips for index? I agree with Spinal, learn how to play FFR instead of Index. The best and easiest way to play FFR is spread. If you want to be super manly and play Index then I would play with middle finger on up arrow and down arrow, other two fingers on left and right. __________________ wewt10k aim: IMB3AU http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=vertex+beta I play Vertex BETA :O

10-15-2007, 05:42 PM	#4
TehUberRaVe FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	Re: Any tips for index? Thanks for trying to help but I'd rather play index I find it's the most fun for me. __________________ Index ftw.

10-15-2007, 05:46 PM	#6
gogohappiness FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minnesota Age: 32 Posts: 50	Re: Any tips for index? I think that a lot of people are against us indexers. I have always played index because that's what I am comfortable with. I don't really know what to tell you for advice. People say that screen shrinking helps but it doesn't for me. do you have problems with streaming doubles? __________________ LEMMY RULES ALL!!!

10-15-2007, 06:10 PM	#8
reddarkd Lawl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bethesda Age: 35 Posts: 204	Re: Any tips for index? I've always played FFR with index fingers.. I never really had any problems (Other than side streams)

10-15-2007, 06:14 PM	#9
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 8,548	Re: Any tips for index? Always played index, my advice is practice so much your finer goes numb. I play with my middle fingers only, starting on the left and right arrows. I have to recoment a good song to practice fast hand movment is max forever especaly the trills, nightmare yes, god practice you bet. I know some one who while learning he played max forever like 5 times in a row before a rest.

10-15-2007, 06:20 PM	#10
jecht3009046 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 324	Re: Any tips for index? If you're going to play index, practice songs like {Firestorm} to get used to jumpstreams. Firestorm is a pretty low BPM, so the jumpstreams aren't complete hell. Once you can easily FC (with a good PA) Firestorm, then quicker jumpstreams (in the 170-190 range) shouldnt be too hard. Constant jumpstreams at 180+ bpm is...well...not something you'll get used to any time soon. Other than jumpstreams, awkward patterns are a major index killer. Spins and similar steps that require using the same finger twice take some time to get used to. Once you can easily combo high bpm streams, then awkward patters at a lower bpm seem to come naturally. Other than those two things, index is close to as good as spread, but if you ever plan to get really low rankings, then spread is the way to go. Unless you're nima or kota, or a few other index players.

10-15-2007, 06:38 PM	#11
Xiaounlimited Eaguru Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 2,832	Re: Any tips for index? Nima plays spread/3f, does he not? Because there's no way in hell an indexer can AA/AAA spread songs like he does. __________________ Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

10-15-2007, 06:45 PM	#12
Danman123 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 190	Re: Any tips for index? Rondo Alla Turca, Rondo Alla Turca v2, and Revolutionary Etude are good to practice crossovers. They're not too fast and their "crossover streams" aren't too long.

10-15-2007, 07:20 PM	#14
Engler FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CNY Age: 31 Posts: 2,339	Re: Any tips for index? Play songs that an indexers like you and I have an extremely difficult time with (Gaussian Blur, {Frozen}, etc. __________________

10-15-2007, 07:26 PM	#15
EnR Massive flaming dildos. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A-Town, Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 8,431	Re: Any tips for index? Play songs with really fast streams, strange program, vertex, montrous turtles, dont bother with crossovers, if ur gunna cross over misewell start playing spread, since crossing over is VERY difficult to learn __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-15-2007, 07:58 PM	#16
shad0wlord FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 247	Re: Any tips for index? Play more Stepmania (jumpstreams and faster streams). __________________

10-15-2007, 08:05 PM	#17
Kotarouchan I only need 3 seconds :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South California Age: 36 Posts: 2,030	Re: Any tips for index? I agree with playing SM, because you can also practice things that you can't here, it's also fun playing songs above 221 BPM. __________________

10-15-2007, 08:56 PM	#18
TehUberRaVe FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	Re: Any tips for index? Thanks alot for your help guys, oh and do you think playing on 1.25x would help or is that too noobish? Edit: Any tips for hand placement? __________________ Index ftw. Last edited by TehUberRaVe; 10-15-2007 at 09:16 PM..

10-15-2007, 09:37 PM	#19
jecht3009046 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 324	Re: Any tips for index? I play index (if I didn't state in my above post) with my wrists at the edge of the desk. It feels more relaxed and natural. Plus, I can hit streams more accurately and faster. That's just me though.

10-16-2007, 02:36 PM	#20
shad0wlord FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 247	Re: Any tips for index? I'd say work on your speed on stepmania as well up to c600, which would place you around x1.75 on FFR. As for hand placement, edge of desk as said above. My varation of that, which I do, is just having my forearm of my right hand on part of the desk on which my computer sits (its in a L-shape.) __________________

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