Trivium or JFAC?

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Originally Posted by KH Luxord

Pure Death Metal - Consists of low-pitched growled vocals, with heavily distorted guitars and singing much about death or a new world that comes out of the death of this world.

No. Death metal evolved out of thrash metal. It commonly has low-pitched growls, but that's not a genre-definer--it's just an earmark. Of course the guitars are distorted. And what they sing about is also not a genre-definer. Commonly, their lyrics have anti-Christian or gore themes. But that's just something that's common. I have no idea where you get this idea of a new world that comes out of the death of this world. I mean, what?

Black Metal (general) - Consists of high-pitched shrieking vocals, with extremely distorted guitars and bands of this genre are usually made up of one or two people. Black metal usually uses drum machines and guitar/bass machines rather than human drummers/guitarists/bassists. Black metal is different from any other genre because of the Satanic nature of the band and the lyrics. Some black metal bands (3 or more members) have been associated with church burnings, murders, and Satanic vandalism. One-man black metal bands usually are associated with public Satanic worshiping/preaching and arson.

Once again, the form of vocals doesn't define the genre. Once again, distorted guitars are kind of just obvious. Now, commonly, the production is a lot more trebly and "harsh", and if that's what you mean with extremely distorted guitars, then I can give you that one.

It's true that black metal really did grow out of anti-Christian (Judeo-Christianity, really) sentiments. And it's true it's commonly satanic. But death metal is plenty satanic too. Lots of thrash as well. Satanism itself doesn't separate black metal from other genres as if it's the only genre with satanism.

And where do you get the idea that one-man black metal bands do a lot of preaching?

So, don't listen to black metal. Death metal sucks, but it is better than black metal.

What? I mean, I guess if you had something against satanism or anti-Christianity, sure. But then that would apply to a very large portion of death metal too.

The best metal genres are Thrash Metal, Speed Metal, Heavy Metal, Metalcore, and Melodic Death Metal (Thrash Metal with distorted guitars).

Melodic death metal is thrash metal with distorted guitars? I mean, that just makes no sense.


EDITING: FINDING SOURCES

All right, well, I can't find any great sources right now. There are a few I've found that have some good lists, so I'll look a bit later.

Instead I just want to give a bit on why I think I'm right. It's important to note that these sort of things are objective facts. In other words, it's possible to be wrong. It's not "just an opinion." It's not something totally subjective. Now, don't get me wrong--because of that, it's certainly possible I could be the wrong one. The point is, someone is wrong.

So why do I think what I think is right? There are a couple different kinds of claims here: factual and definitional. The factual ones are easy. "Black metal bands usually have one or two people". Well, either that's true or not. I don't particularly know the answer. But if there are more black metal bands with more members, then there just are.

But note: calling them black metal to begin with is where we come to the definitional claims. What is considered death metal and what is considered black metal, etc., is just a definition. But it's been defined by a consensus of the elite.

They could have been hardly defined at all or in any random off-the-wall way. But they weren't. They also could have been defined by the absolute majority, but they weren't for an important reason: the elite know what the smeg they're talking about. Think about it. You don't define these genres by what the media calls them. They don't know what's going on. Well, guess what? Lots of other people--even fans--don't know what's going on as well.

So essentially, it's important that they're defined this way as much based on reason as possible. And they are.