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Old 09-30-2007, 07:15 PM   #1
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Default Some roll training

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hp?songid=1144

I kinda suck at explaining it, but rolls are something easily done if you use a reference arrow, and so I hope this video will help you tackle songs like For FFR or Otaku Oni or Torinouta or any other of the countless songs out there that are full of rolls.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:28 PM   #2
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Wow, the science of rolling, it's like magic. Just randomly went through that 1st roll part and went from 12 to 4 goods, before and after paying attention to the right arrow.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:44 PM   #3
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Sure enough, after watching, i gave it a try and AAA'd the rolls. Got any tips for the end?
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:50 PM   #4
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My re-post from the FFR Scores thread:

"The first half of the cluster can be really easy or very difficult depending on the positioning of your hands. When I have my hands flat/my wrists resting on something, the 6482 patterns are harder to PA. If you raise your hands up (playing spread), you can treat it like your fingers are "dipping down to pick at the arrows" at a higher speed with greater precision. Also during that section I tend to shift my right hand back and forth as I'm hitting the up and right arrows (shift forward to pick at up, shift back to hit at right). It's a very push-pull feeling in both hands -- if you aren't doing it correctly your hands will try to naturally shift into artificial-jump mode where you're actually just doing up-down + left-right jumps that will hurt your PA. Try hitting harder with your right middle finger and your left index finger -- this will help your hands be able to maintain consistency because then you're linking the correct fingers together better in terms of spread-mapping.

For the second half, rolls are easier if you pick a reference (ie. in a right-up-down-left roll cluster, just focus on the right arrow. I'm sure you could hit every right arrow if you ignored the rest, right? Only, every time you hit the right arrow, roll the rest of the fingers). Sounds common-sense, but I think a lot of people go into rolls without much regard for how many iterations there are, or how fast the rolls truly are, or where a given roll begins."


If you're into counting: It's also worth noting that the transition occurs roughly 10-right-presses into the ending (ie. start rolling regularly after 10 iterations)
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