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Good thing the Second Law of Thermodynamics exists. It allows for beneficial processes to be selective and continue on while weeding out errors (read: like evolution). --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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agnostic because theres no proof of anything.
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You said all that in response to a post about being agnostic. Also, you repeatedly referenced agnostics.
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Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what Last edited by Tokzic; 09-28-2007 at 03:05 PM.. |
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(The Fat's Sabobah)
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Atheism is not so much a disbelief in God as it is a disbelief of a "Godhead." I have no problem saying the God of the Torah/New Testament does not exist. Why? Because historical evidence proves that the stories in the Torah are symbolic poems of nomadic monotheistic people passed down from generation to generation orally. Humanity once believed in multiple Gods to explain natural events. As our understanding of the world grew, the less Gods we needed, until we were left with one...the One who explains all the mysteries of life. Science came along and said, "no, no, no, there is no guy with a white beard in the sky. there is not hell below us, and there is no heaven." But God is a crafty devil, able to transform and distort himself, dodging whatever EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE we throw at it. Compare that to the extreme criteria a scientific theory has to met to be considered valid, and even then the resistance it meets from other competing theories. Only those that remain falsifiable, yet still prove to be true, survive. Last edited by jewpinthethird; 09-28-2007 at 03:19 PM.. |
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This is quite possibly the easiest way I can say that you're wrong. I can get some sources that show that the chances aren't as low as you may think (those "60,000" proteins aren't all necessary for life), but quite frankly so long as there is a chance even inconceivably above 0 (e.g. 1*10^-100%), then the chances don't matter. Oh, and don't give me that whole "statisticians say that anything below 10^-50% is deemed impossible" crap. What keeps them from saying 10^-50%+1? Convenience: it's just that the chances are so low that its insignificant in almost any situation, but frankly it doesn't matter in this case! There's a difference between the impossible and the overwhelmingly improbable. The chances of life existing or not only matters when you're trying to find life outside of our planet which already has life. I agree somewhat, but Occam's Razor has a place in the argument. It can be used to justify a probable nonexistence of a deist currently secular God, i.e. one we don't know about. Sure that God may exist, but whatever he does to us after we die concerning our belief in him is quite possibly indeterminate because such a god has never revealed himself. He may have antlers, and punish all who don't believe he has antlers, or it can go the other way around. He may punish those who even believe in any God! He is irrelevant, so it violates Occam's Razor, thus I have justification to assume he doesn't exist so long as I remember why Occam's Razor usually holds true. That, great disbelief in religious doctrine, and the logical contradictions of omnipotence are sole reasons why I am atheist and not agnostic.
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