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Old 09-12-2007, 04:36 PM   #41
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It isn't about showing off -- you miss the point
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:46 PM   #42
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Hooray needless frustration. Sweet score whoever you are. Rubix calm down. We all like to flaunt our writing skills and typistically destroy someone now and again, but please. You're arguing about ****ing fluids and gases for christ's sake. Listen to yourself. I know Ravia was completely out of line and made quite an ignorant post, but you should be on enough of a higher mindset to just skip past it realizing what pointless drama you'd start by replying in such a manner. Next time I'd suggest just leaving it alone. You seem to have done such a good job at it elsewhere; I don't know why this is what would make you blow up. Although, it always is the smallest things that piss people off the most.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:47 PM   #43
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You can get away with it here
Just because you can accomplish something without having to suffer any concrete ramifications doesn't exactly give merit to going through with it.

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if anything it's because my real-life accomplishments kick ass
You've said it yourself; this is the Internet. Especially in a place like FFR Forums, real-life accomplishments count for approximately nothing, at least directly.
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and because most people here are stupid
In a community such as this, the response with which you have been met is typical in regard to the circumstances.

You may not have the self-awareness to realize this (although with the intelligence you so claim to possess, it shouldn't be difficult), or more dishearteningly, perhaps you do...but most of your retorts in some way or another contain a trace of undue elitism. This appraisal, of course, is subject only to those upon whose ears (or in this case, eyes) your words fall. Rather than the actual content of the posts, it's more of your wording and the resulting overweening assertiveness that causes the sparks to fly. Unsurprisingly, your own replies ultimately function as yet more kindling for the flames, so pointing fingers at any one party is somewhat meaningless, as it takes two to argue.

I would hope that someone of your supposed intellectual caliber would know to handle such affairs with tact, but I've seen nothing of the sort recently. Debating over matters such as those in the Critical Thinking forum is one thing...arguing over trivial matters and doing so in the way of which these past few weeks have shown contributes only to a spectacle of both shame and shamelessness.

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I rest my case. Know this: A person can be civil only as much as you allow them to be.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:19 PM   #44
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"Although, it always is the smallest things that piss people off the most." Pretty much. It's pointless, yes, but I have a pet peeve when someone challenges something I say. Call it arrogant -- but I'm rarely wrong about things, although I can accept when I *am* wrong. However, most people's ideas of "proving me wrong" involve ignorant crap like in this very thread, as well as countless others.

Lightshark: Yes, I agree. I know many of my posts are "elitist," and I know that this is the Internet -- and I have fun with it, and this is reason enough to go through with being an ass. I'm also aware that my posts keep the flames going -- I'm not oblivious, I understand perfectly what I say and do, as well as the consequences that arise. The only difference is that it allows me to flame people by pointing out their fallacies. In other words, I act the way I do here for simple utility gain.

I do disagree with your civility statement. I've allowed people to be civil. Most of this actually stems from FFR scores, obviously. Most people, in response, sling around misinformation and BS calls and flaming (as opposed to asking legitimate questions about something they either don't understand or doubt for whatever reason). So in response, I'm going to point out people's stupidity.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:27 PM   #45
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Most of this actually stems from FFR scores, obviously. Most people, in response, sling around misinformation and BS calls and flaming (as opposed to asking legitimate questions about something they either don't understand or doubt for whatever reason). So in response, I'm going to point out people's stupidity.


So this is all because of your pent up anger for people not believing you are legit?

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I believe yew are legitz0rs, does that count? :3
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:32 PM   #46
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No, not pent-up anger at all. Just saying it started there, and it's just an example of people spewing misinformation over things they don't understand and being needlessly bitter
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:36 PM   #47
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When you insult them, as much as it's "just over the internet", it does cause some bit of resentment and anger, and bitterness. We all wish we had 100% of the information 100% of the time, but that's not the way the world works. People are smarter than others, some flaunt the fact that they are better than everyone else... But in my opinion, excessive arrogance leads you nowhere, even if that arrogance is justified.

Since you did everything you could to prove your legitness, then people can make up their own opionions. If they are the wrong ones, ignore it or coax them to the fact. You are a smart man after all. =D
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Most people, in response, sling around misinformation and BS calls and flaming (as opposed to asking legitimate questions about something they either don't understand or doubt for whatever reason). So in response, I'm going to point out people's stupidity.
Sadly, such is the culture surrounding the brag boards of competitive games [though I do believe the fact that StepMania (in conjunction with the Internet) is inherently competitive to be utterly appalling). Half of the people here don't know what they're talking about, yes, but those that do are generally, though not always, correct.

I know not if you were present, but there was a small period during which many FFR players joked that, "go AAA Caprice or something lulz." Some of them were simply met with, "o that'll never happen whoever does that is instant bs."

It was only inevitable that when you got the scores you did, you were besieged by unsupported calls of BS and the accompanying flames. Even with all the proof in the world, it is still next to impossible to turn the opinions of every doubter.

You really shouldn't care about what people think of your legitimacy. If you are indeed legit, then it is written in stone that you did achieve those scores. You don't need the belief of others to maintain the truth of the factual. Let those who believe you continue to do so, and allow those that don't to stew in their own ignorance.

And, if you aren't legit......

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:57 PM   #49
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Whenever there is a given game or sport or record or ability to beat, people have always placed artificial limits on things. This is getting a bit too "philosophical" though, but I'll still get into it anyway. I mean look at the 4-minute mile. Before the 1950's, people said it was impossible, then Bannister came along. Then many more. Before the 1980's, people said 13 seconds would be the theoretical limit of a Rubik's Cube speedsolve, and now we have people clocking sub-10's. When people place these artificial limits, it only causes damage and hinders progress because they already assume their potentials have a barrier. You see it all the time -- people claiming something is impossible, and then someone does it, and then suddenly a lot of people find it possible. You can see how people are getting sdg's on Caprice, so clearly those joking that "Caprice AAA's" were impossible a long time ago were simply narrow-minded. I've proven that I can do what I say under various conditions and requests, and so those that are still asses about it can just go continue playing with their tunnelvision.

"You don't need the belief of others to maintain the truth of the factual. Let those who believe you continue to do so, and allow those that don't to stew in their own ignorance."

And this is pretty much what I'm doing now. I play for fun, and you don't need a community of ignorant people to have fun with a given game, no matter what your skill level is.


I found a perfect example of my point, read joev's post in the following link:
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Fo...L/001816.shtml

I'm not saying it's "easy" to do well at something, but I've played these games enough to get to that skill level, and people placing limits on things they don't fully understand is silly. Imagine that everyone in the DDR/ITG/SM/FFR community were isolated from one another and then they began to play. The average skill level would be MUCH lower than it is now due to lack of competition. Remember when Max 300 used to be hard as hell? Now nobody really cares about an AAA on foot because so many have done it even though it was impossible. Remember all the BS calls on Yasu and Taka? It's the same old story.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:32 PM   #50
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It was not so much as the feat itself, but the vast difference between your performance on songs and that of the previous recordholders. Well, that and the fact that you appeared seemingly from out of nowhere, but that is mostly irrelevant.

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And this is pretty much what I'm doing now. I play for fun, and you don't need a community of ignorant people to have fun with a given game, no matter what your skill level is.
Which therefore means you stop to debate only because you enjoy doing so.

:argumentative impasse oops:

I have no say in whether or not you can like arguing, but I highly recommend that you keep it to a minimum, unless you know that everyone else agrees that the victim is a flaming half-brained nimrod.

Of course, I'm willing to bet that you perceive a significant portion of FFR as such, but eh...

For the most part, what you choose to do from this point on is no longer my concern. Hopefully your decisions will be appreciably rational. If not, well...

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Old 09-12-2007, 07:42 PM   #51
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"Which therefore means you stop to debate only because you enjoy doing so." Yes.

However, you're right in that it should probably be kept to a minimum. Debating people is more fun when people have a better idea about what they're discussing. I'll hold my opinions of the FFR community static until shown differently, but I do appreciate your posts here -- very refreshing compared to everything else here.

I would like to note though, I don't berate people unless they try to start something. Otherwise I have little incentive to debate them, you know?
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Haha, you need not hold your opinions static, but the ideal choice is to hold your tongue (or typing, hehe) unless the need rises to a point where it's impossible not to intervene.

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Haha, you need not hold your opinions static, but the ideal choice is to hold your tongue (or typing, hehe) unless the need rises to a point where it's impossible not to intervene.
Problem is I see opportunity to intervene often Holding my tongue is hardly ideal to holding my opinions constant.
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Hooray needless frustration. Sweet score whoever you are. Rubix calm down. We all like to flaunt our writing skills and typistically destroy someone now and again, but please. You're arguing about ****ing fluids and gases for christ's sake. Listen to yourself. I know Ravia was completely out of line and made quite an ignorant post, but you should be on enough of a higher mindset to just skip past it realizing what pointless drama you'd start by replying in such a manner. Next time I'd suggest just leaving it alone. You seem to have done such a good job at it elsewhere; I don't know why this is what would make you blow up. Although, it always is the smallest things that piss people off the most.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:57 AM   #58
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I don't have much to say other then these three simple points

ONE: Has anyone noticed after Rubix's first long post smartdude has been conspicuously absent?

TWO: I have a great deal of respect for Rubix and his obviously high power of intellect but his unsurpassed ability to argue a point with utmost precision. AND he kicks ass at ffr XD

THREE: Turbulence can suck my left nut cuz my PA sucks at it. VERY nice score

PS: I happened to find Rubix's line that originally started this entire argument in the first place quite hysterical
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haha were the fuk did this thread go
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