The War in Iraq

[Kilroy_x]

Originally Posted by Kamunt

Well, I'm out of valid arguments to support my stance on this issue.

...are you sure you had any to begin with?

Even if 70,000~+ Iraqi civilians have been so far (yes, I clicked the IBC link), that's still nothing in comparison to the over 1,000,000 Hussein was responsible for killing during his time ruling the nation with an iron gauntlet.

It's not nothing, in comparison to anything or otherwise. It's 70,000~+.

Plus, it's not like those 70,000 deaths were directly the fault of just America; notice how I said "directly", so don't waste your finger strength keying out the fact that "it's our fault the Iraqis are dying at all in the first place". Especially since I did it for you.

How is that significant? America invades, events unfold, people that wouldn't have died die. If you know your actions will cause harm to innocents you shouldn't take them. Individuals in government knew these actions would cause harm to innocents, as proven by the wonderful video Jewpin linked to. So what's the substance of your distinction?

This may be looking at things through rose-colored glasses, but again, we are trying to help them, at least.

Why is this significant?

There's hope for them becoming stabilized again with a much better government, a lot more than there was back when Hussein was still in power.

This specific contention requires hard support, especially considering the sheer number of individuals who disagree with you.

He was an evil, evil man and he needed to be taken out (of power)--you can't possibly deny that. At risk of my temper, how could you just stand by and watch as a nation's people are mercilessly killed, some by means as gruesome as plastic-grinding machines, by the nation's own leader? That's sick.

How is that any sicker than execution by decapitation? Or the use of suicide bombers in public areas to kill men, women and children?

Saddam wasn't evil. The things known as evil are as human as anything else. Saddam was simply a man who took the wrong path on the road to salvation*.





*in the sense that "salvation" is derived from a phrase meaning "to salt". In this sense we all require salvation to preserve us and keep us from going bad.