are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow - Page 2

callum111 · 08-9-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

http://www.esrb.org/index-js.jsp

Kids shouldn't be playing M-rated games. Simple as that.

It's the parent's fault if such a thing is true, but as Relam pointed out, video games, violent as they may be, keep kids from doing other things out of boredom. Like crime. As such, crime rates have plummeted since video games were released.

Well I heard my brother when he was like 3 he played doom. Thats like rated M.

**Squeek** · 08-9-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrastat

Bookmarking that page, Guido.

Dose of reality right there.

Even if it's a "dose of reality", it's not the overarching truth.

Most parents are lazy and don't care about what game their kid wants, so long as they get it and shut up for a while.

This is totally unrelated to youth violence, though. This just shows the trace of responsibility to young children who play M-rated games.

Youth violence is usually related to issues at home.

kratos7 · 08-9-2007, 05:10 PM

hell no violent games are the healthiest games there are and if u disagree with me ILL KILL YOU.........jk

ddr_f4n · 08-9-2007, 05:44 PM

Kratos, this is critical thinking, so post something meaningful.

On topic: Well, some kids (even adults) consider what happens in games happens in reality (like being shot 100 times and still live, and you recover over time) and those are the dumb people who just needs know the truth about violence and death. Those are the only people that are being affected by video games. Parents should realize this and use the ESRB ratings to avoid the youth from playing games like these. But this isn't the real reason why there are so much violence out there. Some are because of abusive families, or needs to kill to survive, and other reasonable explanations. The government needs to stop judging video games to get rid of them.

**macgravel** · 08-9-2007, 06:33 PM

I played all kinds of violent video games when I was younger. Will I ever kill someone, want to rob someone or steal a car? Hell no. My parents actually raised me correctly and taught me at a young age to make correct choices in life. Some kids don't want to listen to their parents, or some parents don't want to tell their kids what's wrong and what isn't.

It takes a sick and twisted mind to do anything evil. If someone plans on doing anything evil in the first place, then video games won't affect that.

Violent games don't cause kids to kill people. That's my opinion.

lord_carbo · 08-9-2007, 07:14 PM

1) You'd need to be mentally unstable to not be able to distinguish games from reality.
2) You'd need to be a violent or mentally unstable person to do something violent because you were influenced by video games in the first place.
3) Games don't teach you how to shoot a gun.
4) Games don't prepare you to shoot a person.

Crime has gone down ever since the PS1 hit the market rapidly (it actually was increasing slowly up to that year), and has been a record low in nearly 25 years. greekanilater, unless you live in England, you are wrong and I'd love to see some data to support what you said. (In England, the problem is gun control. Yes, the almost complete ban of guns spiked crime rates! And don't give me that cum hoc crap, if you even know what that is bwahaha.)

Oh, and violent crime would decrease even less by a huge amount if we decriminalized, hell, legalized drugs.

"So carbo, you're saying that drug legalization, gun rights and violent video games actually decrease violent crime?!"

"Yes."

"You're ****ing nuts."

boondocks77 · 08-9-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lord_carbo

1) You'd need to be mentally unstable to not be able to distinguish games from reality.
2) You'd need to be a violent or mentally unstable person to do something violent because you were influenced by video games in the first place.
3) Games don't teach you how to shoot a gun.
4) Games don't prepare you to shoot a person.

Crime has gone down ever since the PS1 hit the market rapidly (it actually was increasing slowly up to that year), and has been a record low in nearly 25 years. greekanilater, unless you live in England, you are wrong and I'd love to see some data to support what you said. (In England, the problem is gun control. Yes, the almost complete ban of guns spiked crime rates! And don't give me that cum hoc crap, if you even know what that is bwahaha.)

Oh, and violent crime would decrease even less by a huge amount if we decriminalized, hell, legalized drugs.

"So carbo, you're saying that drug legalization, gun rights and violent video games actually decrease violent crime?!"

"Yes."

"You're ****ing nuts."

wut u said aobut being mentally unstable not to distinugish games from reality isnt necessarily true. I have a friend who saw the movie 300 and wants to kill ppl with a sword
and he wuz serious about doing it too im not even joking he isnt mentally unstable, hes in the high school honor roll for pete's sake

Infinity^ · 08-9-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by greekanilater

Are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow? i think they are because violence has increased dramatically in the last 20 years

Your proof of statistics intrigues me.

**Squeek** · 08-9-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boondocks77

wut u said aobut being mentally unstable not to distinugish games from reality isnt necessarily true. I have a friend who saw the movie 300 and wants to kill ppl with a sword
and he wuz serious about doing it too im not even joking he isnt mentally unstable, hes in the high school honor roll for pete's sake

Thinking it's cool and actually following through with it are two different things.

Besides, swords DO exist, and when you swing them hard at a person, you CAN sever limbs. That's perfectly realistic. I'm pretty certain he knows that doing it will cause the receiver to suffer immensely.

This is different from, say, a light-saber, which doesn't exist.

boondocks77 · 08-9-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

Thinking it's cool and actually following through with it are two different things.

Besides, swords DO exist, and when you swing them hard at a person, you CAN sever limbs. That's perfectly realistic. I'm pretty certain he knows that doing it will cause the receiver to suffer immensely.

This is different from, say, a light-saber, which doesn't exist.

*cough* little confused here... r u agreeing or disagreeing with me?

FatalRay · 08-9-2007, 09:11 PM

OOOOOO, Finally....A topic I can get wrapped up in.

I gotta say, the only true thing at fault here is. The kids and the parents. There is a rating system that is there to warn the parents, many times, Have I over heard someone at my local EB games tell a parent what grand theft auto has in it and they shrug it off, 2 hours later, they try to return it. Now we have done our part as gamers to notify parents...

Now we come to the kids, unless the kid is actually mental in the head, video games should NOT have anything to do with their developement. Everyone is in control of their own mind, and no one but them make the full choice. See in a way I am a hypocrit, my parents never gave 2 craps about what I played. When I was 5 I got turok. An old M rated game. Big deal. I'm a perfectly "Normal" if anything can truly be called that, person, that looks out for others and is respectful. However I am still under 18 but I play some crazy gory games such as gears of war, and soon to be, bioshock.

I'd also like to bring up, the wii has some very sexual humor in it from say mario party 8, if you ever play the game shake it up, and you check the controls...You will understand. Yes gaming can be impressionable, but the true fact is we do our part to keep the games out of the hands of lil kids. The way it is, is that if the kid cannot cope with the fact that that is fiction,and the world is reality, then he shouldn't play. But if the kid can cope with it, by all means go friggin crazy. All in all there is absolutely no reason for games to be blamed. As for the sexual manner I can kinda see where they are going with this, as for the fact that with teen pregnancies shooting up every day, I can see them reflecting it off of that. Also pornography is offensive to many, including me despite my hormone raging teenage male body.

Currently, there has only ever been ONE AO rated game but that was changed to an M rated. The game was Manhunt. All in all, that is the truth.

boondocks77 · 08-9-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FatalRay

OOOOOO, Finally....A topic I can get wrapped up in.

I gotta say, the only true thing at fault here is. The kids and the parents. There is a rating system that is there to warn the parents, many times, Have I over heard someone at my local EB games tell a parent what grand theft auto has in it and they shrug it off, 2 hours later, they try to return it. Now we have done our part as gamers to notify parents...

Now we come to the kids, unless the kid is actually mental in the head, video games should NOT have anything to do with their developement. Everyone is in control of their own mind, and no one but them make the full choice. See in a way I am a hypocrit, my parents never gave 2 craps about what I played. When I was 5 I got turok. An old M rated game. Big deal. I'm a perfectly "Normal" if anything can truly be called that, person, that looks out for others and is respectful. However I am still under 18 but I play some crazy gory games such as gears of war, and soon to be, bioshock.

I'd also like to bring up, the wii has some very sexual humor in it from say mario party 8, if you ever play the game shake it up, and you check the controls...You will understand. Yes gaming can be impressionable, but the true fact is we do our part to keep the games out of the hands of lil kids. The way it is, is that if the kid cannot cope with the fact that that is fiction,and the world is reality, then he shouldn't play. But if the kid can cope with it, by all means go friggin crazy. All in all there is absolutely no reason for games to be blamed. As for the sexual manner I can kinda see where they are going with this, as for the fact that with teen pregnancies shooting up every day, I can see them reflecting it off of that. Also pornography is offensive to many, including me despite my hormone raging teenage male body.

Currently, there has only ever been ONE AO rated game but that was changed to an M rated. The game was Manhunt. All in all, that is the truth.

im sorry totally unrelated but ur avatar is hilarious i had to put tht out there

FatalRay · 08-9-2007, 09:15 PM

Lmfao thank you. Steal it if you want XD

guyofgod · 08-9-2007, 09:15 PM

If the video games of yester-year effected our parents, they would be bright yellow, would be afraid of ghosts, and would eat magic power pellets in a corner waiting for the fruit of the day to appear in the middle of the scree- I mean room.

boondocks77 · 08-9-2007, 09:16 PM

its ok thanks anyways i like my drowning dog

FatalRay · 08-9-2007, 09:17 PM

lol is that menshi from excel saga?

boondocks77 · 08-9-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FatalRay

lol is that menshi from excel saga?

wtf?

**Squeek** · 08-9-2007, 09:28 PM

This is Critical Thinking.

Do not make irrelevant posts.

iamsteves · 08-9-2007, 11:11 PM

lol no

ouch123 · 08-10-2007, 01:39 AM

No. Violent video games are there for our entertainment. Nobody in their right mind would act on anything they see in a video game.

Oh, and to the first poster, you\'re full of ****. Could you at least provide a credible source for that information? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

Ratings are there for a reason. Though I can look the other way if you want to play an M rated game, but you\'re only about 13 or 14.

08-9-2007, 05:10 PM	#23
kratos7 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow hell no violent games are the healthiest games there are and if u disagree with me ILL KILL YOU.........jk

08-9-2007, 05:44 PM	#24
ddr_f4n FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in Canadaland Age: 31 Posts: 3,807	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow Kratos, this is critical thinking, so post something meaningful. On topic: Well, some kids (even adults) consider what happens in games happens in reality (like being shot 100 times and still live, and you recover over time) and those are the dumb people who just needs know the truth about violence and death. Those are the only people that are being affected by video games. Parents should realize this and use the ESRB ratings to avoid the youth from playing games like these. But this isn't the real reason why there are so much violence out there. Some are because of abusive families, or needs to kill to survive, and other reasonable explanations. The government needs to stop judging video games to get rid of them. __________________ Out Now! Older Releases: Vocaloid: Project Pad Pack 3rd Gpop's Pack of Original Pad Simfiles 東方幻想踊 (Touhou Gensouyou) ~ Illusionary Dance Fantasy & Vocaloid: Project Pad Pack 2nd

08-9-2007, 06:33 PM	#25
macgravel Resident Poopbutt Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 34 Posts: 2,405	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow I played all kinds of violent video games when I was younger. Will I ever kill someone, want to rob someone or steal a car? Hell no. My parents actually raised me correctly and taught me at a young age to make correct choices in life. Some kids don't want to listen to their parents, or some parents don't want to tell their kids what's wrong and what isn't. It takes a sick and twisted mind to do anything evil. If someone plans on doing anything evil in the first place, then video games won't affect that. Violent games don't cause kids to kill people. That's my opinion.

08-9-2007, 07:14 PM	#26
lord_carbo FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: fighting villains from afar, NJ Age: 32 Posts: 6,222	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow 1) You'd need to be mentally unstable to not be able to distinguish games from reality. 2) You'd need to be a violent or mentally unstable person to do something violent because you were influenced by video games in the first place. 3) Games don't teach you how to shoot a gun. 4) Games don't prepare you to shoot a person. Crime has gone down ever since the PS1 hit the market rapidly (it actually was increasing slowly up to that year), and has been a record low in nearly 25 years. greekanilater, unless you live in England, you are wrong and I'd love to see some data to support what you said. (In England, the problem is gun control. Yes, the almost complete ban of guns spiked crime rates! And don't give me that cum hoc crap, if you even know what that is bwahaha.) Oh, and violent crime would decrease even less by a huge amount if we decriminalized, hell, legalized drugs. "So carbo, you're saying that drug legalization, gun rights and violent video games actually decrease violent crime?!" "Yes." "You're **ing nuts." __________________ last.fm**

08-9-2007, 09:11 PM	#31
FatalRay FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wpg, MB, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 130	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow OOOOOO, Finally....A topic I can get wrapped up in. I gotta say, the only true thing at fault here is. The kids and the parents. There is a rating system that is there to warn the parents, many times, Have I over heard someone at my local EB games tell a parent what grand theft auto has in it and they shrug it off, 2 hours later, they try to return it. Now we have done our part as gamers to notify parents... Now we come to the kids, unless the kid is actually mental in the head, video games should NOT have anything to do with their developement. Everyone is in control of their own mind, and no one but them make the full choice. See in a way I am a hypocrit, my parents never gave 2 craps about what I played. When I was 5 I got turok. An old M rated game. Big deal. I'm a perfectly "Normal" if anything can truly be called that, person, that looks out for others and is respectful. However I am still under 18 but I play some crazy gory games such as gears of war, and soon to be, bioshock. I'd also like to bring up, the wii has some very sexual humor in it from say mario party 8, if you ever play the game shake it up, and you check the controls...You will understand. Yes gaming can be impressionable, but the true fact is we do our part to keep the games out of the hands of lil kids. The way it is, is that if the kid cannot cope with the fact that that is fiction,and the world is reality, then he shouldn't play. But if the kid can cope with it, by all means go friggin crazy. All in all there is absolutely no reason for games to be blamed. As for the sexual manner I can kinda see where they are going with this, as for the fact that with teen pregnancies shooting up every day, I can see them reflecting it off of that. Also pornography is offensive to many, including me despite my hormone raging teenage male body. Currently, there has only ever been ONE AO rated game but that was changed to an M rated. The game was Manhunt. All in all, that is the truth.

08-9-2007, 09:15 PM	#33
FatalRay FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wpg, MB, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 130	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow Lmfao thank you. Steal it if you want XD

08-9-2007, 09:15 PM	#34
guyofgod FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 31	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow If the video games of yester-year effected our parents, they would be bright yellow, would be afraid of ghosts, and would eat magic power pellets in a corner waiting for the fruit of the day to appear in the middle of the scree- I mean room.

08-9-2007, 09:16 PM	#35
boondocks77 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 883	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow its ok thanks anyways i like my drowning dog __________________ vagina

08-9-2007, 09:17 PM	#36
FatalRay FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wpg, MB, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 130	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow lol is that menshi from excel saga?

08-9-2007, 09:28 PM	#38
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow This is Critical Thinking. Do not make irrelevant posts.

08-9-2007, 11:11 PM	#39
iamsteves FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 24	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow lol no

08-10-2007, 01:39 AM	#40
ouch123 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10	Re: are violent video games ruining the youth of tomorrow No. Violent video games are there for our entertainment. Nobody in their right mind would act on anything they see in a video game. Oh, and to the first poster, you\'re full of ****. Could you at least provide a credible source for that information? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Ratings are there for a reason. Though I can look the other way if you want to play an M rated game, but you\'re only about 13 or 14.

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