"Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" - Page 2

thechild · 07-2-2007, 11:03 PM

I still don't know what "framers" are :0.

**rshadow8888** · 07-3-2007, 12:07 PM

5 framer - can hit both notes perfect
4 framer - can hit both notes perfect, but it's a little more difficult
3 framer - can hit both notes perfect, but it's even more difficult
2 framer - forces you to hit the 1 note as a good and the other can be hit as a perfect
1 framer - forces you to hit the 1 note as an average and the other can be hit as a perfect
0 framer - forces you to miss 1 note, the other can be hit as a perfect

That help at all?

**Nightfirecat** · 07-16-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thechild

I still don't know what "framers" are :0.

the term framers is referring to frames of gameplay (FFR runs at 30 frames per second) and depending how close notes are together, you may be able to hit a note that is on time, but since FFR is run from flash instead of a more reliable programming language, it will register the 2nd note, but not the first... hence the term 4-framer refers to 2 notes in the same direction that are 4 frames apart and you can hit the 2nd one even when you were trying to hit the first one.

**Shashakiro** · 07-17-2007, 03:25 AM

Anubis doesn't have any 3-framers.

tass edit: nope. but either 36 or 38 4-framers. i forget offhand.

rednanaki · 07-25-2007, 10:40 AM

Wait so if i put 150 bpm sixteenth jacks in my file, there's a teeny weeny chance it's a 2 framer?

**dore** · 07-25-2007, 02:56 PM

Yeah, but if it's 150 and the judges accept it chances are Tass will manually turn the 2 framer into a 3 framer if it happens to be that way. There is a very slight chance of that occurring, so don't worry about that.

**jimerax** · 07-25-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rednanaki

Wait so if i put 150 bpm sixteenth jacks in my file, there's a teeny weeny chance it's a 2 framer?

Note that even 3-framers will remarkably reduce the chance of your file being accepted in general.
Needless to say 2-framers.

**customstuff** · 07-25-2007, 03:06 PM

So, can I make 185 BPM 8th note jacks and thrills?

**dore** · 07-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Yeah, you can do up to 225 before the judges start getting picky.

**customstuff** · 07-25-2007, 03:08 PM

cool.

rednanaki · 07-25-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

Note that even 3-framers will remarkably reduce the chance of your file being accepted in general.
Needless to say 2-framers.

I stepped it w/ pitch relevance, and it works well in SM, but yeah i'll take em out.

tricky77puzzle · 07-26-2007, 08:19 AM

The thing about the first post, though, is that it depends on a 60 FPS display. (Thus a 16th note on 900 bpm would be a 1-framer, because 16*900/4=3600, or 60*60.) What happens if the display goes to about 20 FPS? (That happens to me a lot.) Then a 16-th note on, say, 300 bpm would be a 1-framer. And then a 4th note on 300 BPM would be a 4-framer. Well, 4-framers aren't too much of a problem... just look at "Flight of the Bumblebee".

falcondude · 07-26-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tricky77puzzle

The thing about the first post, though, is that it depends on a 60 FPS display. (Thus a 16th note on 900 bpm would be a 1-framer, because 16*900/4=3600, or 60*60.) What happens if the display goes to about 20 FPS? (That happens to me a lot.) Then a 16-th note on, say, 300 bpm would be a 1-framer. And then a 4th note on 300 BPM would be a 4-framer. Well, 4-framers aren't too much of a problem... just look at "Flight of the Bumblebee".

30 FPS. And you still have the same amount of time to hit the note... 3 frames at 30 fps takes the same amount of time as 2 frames at 20. Sorry if thats confusing.

omgitznpv · 08-1-2007, 04:55 PM

*complete edit*

A 5 minute file of mine is loaded with 8th note jacks @ 245.94 BPM, as well as a few 16th note jacks. Big problem there?

**dore** · 08-1-2007, 11:34 PM

tricky77puzzle · 08-4-2007, 01:12 PM

My stepfile for "Fury Of the Storm" by Dragonforce features 800-bpm trample voltage, which would be 2.2-framers on FFR.

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30 FPS. And you still have the same amount of time to hit the note... 3 frames at 30 fps takes the same amount of time as 2 frames at 20. Sorry if that's confusing.

No, isn't it 60 FPS? Because If 4th notes are 0-framers at 3600 bpm... oh, never mind.

I possibly read it wrong, I thought 3600 bpm was a 1-framer.

**Coolboyrulez0** · 08-4-2007, 06:51 PM

No, FFR is 30FPS. They plan to make 3rd style 60FPS. That would be nice of them.

CBR

Knoobish · 08-4-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tricky77puzzle

My stepfile for "Fury Of the Storm" by Dragonforce features 800-bpm trample voltage, which would be 2.2-framers on FFR.

No, isn't it 60 FPS? Because If 4th notes are 0-framers at 3600 bpm... oh, never mind.

I possibly read it wrong, I thought 3600 bpm was a 1-framer.

We don't have dragonforce permission. Go read the permission thread.

**customstuff** · 08-11-2007, 09:53 AM

How likely would 170 BPM 16ths be rejected?

BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5 · 08-11-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by customstuff

How likely would 170 BPM 16ths be rejected?

Probably very...

07-2-2007, 11:03 PM	#21
thechild FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hmmmmmmmmmm Style: Spread Posts: 1,642	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" I still don't know what "framers" are :0.

07-3-2007, 12:07 PM	#22
rshadow8888 FFR's Buizel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 35 Posts: 3,120	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" 5 framer - can hit both notes perfect 4 framer - can hit both notes perfect, but it's a little more difficult 3 framer - can hit both notes perfect, but it's even more difficult 2 framer - forces you to hit the 1 note as a good and the other can be hit as a perfect 1 framer - forces you to hit the 1 note as an average and the other can be hit as a perfect 0 framer - forces you to miss 1 note, the other can be hit as a perfect That help at all?

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rednanaki PENGUIN@@@@@@@@@ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New England Age: 36 Posts: 604	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" Wait so if i put 150 bpm sixteenth jacks in my file, there's a teeny weeny chance it's a 2 framer? __________________ -- Best AAA: The Dream of Scarlet Best FC: The Adventures of Lolol

07-25-2007, 02:56 PM	#26
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 35 Posts: 6,317	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" Yeah, but if it's 150 and the judges accept it chances are Tass will manually turn the 2 framer into a 3 framer if it happens to be that way. There is a very slight chance of that occurring, so don't worry about that. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 35 Posts: 6,317	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" Yeah, you can do up to 225 before the judges start getting picky. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

07-26-2007, 08:19 AM	#32
tricky77puzzle FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" The thing about the first post, though, is that it depends on a 60 FPS display. (Thus a 16th note on 900 bpm would be a 1-framer, because 16900/4=3600, or 6060.) What happens if the display goes to about 20 FPS? (That happens to me a lot.) Then a 16-th note on, say, 300 bpm would be a 1-framer. And then a 4th note on 300 BPM would be a 4-framer. Well, 4-framers aren't too much of a problem... just look at "Flight of the Bumblebee".

08-1-2007, 11:34 PM	#35
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 35 Posts: 6,317	Re: "Are my Jacks Okay?!?!?!" yeah __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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