Recently....

[sonic-fast-fingers]

A person on this game named Ka0z r4vr was told that he would be banned for putting screen shots of his scores from a similar game called Stepmania, and a computer version of ITG....many people said that he hacked his scores, and the rank 7 person in the game jumped to conclusions and says that he will be banned if he posts anything else in the forums, well I am here to say screw you Shashakiro, just because you aren't that good you go ahead and want to ban someone, well i think you are a pompous ass for doing so, and anyone else that doesn't believe him get a life, because I know him and real life and he is crazy so screw all of you.

You suck Shashakiro honestly ban me why don't you, i have screen shots on my page.

[killapron]

i agree too ^_^

[KA0Z R4VR]

Oh wow. I have snapshots of my StepMania scores and somehow I am on grounds of being banned?! WTF is that? Uhm...wow I never thought FFR would get so caught up in their scoring system that they don't recognize that SM is more legit in scoring. No random anything. ".ini hax"

As if I am going to sit there and go through that damn file where who the hell knows where its at. I can NOT believe this. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't.

In StepMania Online I was rank #4. Come close. Anyone in FFR - please come close.

I have been playing since I was 12! 4 years is alot to get here and I get called a hacker.

So I have a proposal - ANYONE who doubts my scores or Screenshots, play me on SMO. Try it. It's more fun and harder and realistic. There is NO jacksyndrome and no FPS clips. SMO runs a check on INI files to see if the window has been modified, so if you think you can beat me then do it.

I will post any video with proof of my INI and Judge Difficulty before I pick a song and AAA/AAAA [more than likely]. So please, if you are going to ban me, at least say you can beat me first.

[KA0Z R4VR]

Thnx!

-Cream

[Ichiro_Suzuki_desu]

Originally Posted by KA0Z R4VR

SM is more legit in scoring.

I don't think you understand what "legitimate" means, let alone dozens of other things.

[KA0Z R4VR]

Haha ok? And your point. SM is 'legit'.

In FFR, I got 1 miss and the rest perfect. I played someone who got 14 goods, and they won. How is that anywhere NEAR fair.

before we get into a topic of grammer and vocabulary, prove to me that SM is not legit.

[Ichiro_Suzuki_desu]

Okay.

dictionary.com
le·git·i·mate
1. according to law; lawful: the property's legitimate owner.
2. in accordance with established rules, principles, or standards.

Stepmania's scoring is certainly not as lawful as FFR's scoring system. If you're talking about lag, average misses, offbeat-ness, or combo-biased scoring, that's a different story. That has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. However, the variety of ways in which you can unlawfully change the SM scoring system is simply innumeral. You can screw around with metrics, judge, life, autoplay, trainers, and other stupid mods that go completely undetected on the screenshots. In FFR, the laws are set in stone; there are far fewer ways to hack. It's obvious that you edited the Stepmania configuration settings. Once inside the SM folder, it takes only two double-clicks to enter the menu where you can edit the built-in timing windows. What you claim to be, I hope you understand, is the most accurate SM player in the world, (judging from the AAAAA's) yet some of your other scores suck. I know for a fact that anyone who knows anything about SM knows you faked a lot of your scores; do you think we're all fools?

[KA0Z R4VR]

Originally Posted by Ichiro_Suzuki_desu

Okay.

dictionary.com
le·git·i·mate
1. according to law; lawful: the property's legitimate owner.
2. in accordance with established rules, principles, or standards.

Stepmania's scoring is certainly not as lawful as FFR's scoring system. If you're talking about lag, average misses, offbeat-ness, or combo-biased scoring, that's a different story. That has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. However, the variety of ways in which you can unlawfully change the SM scoring system is simply innumeral. You can screw around with metrics, judge, life, autoplay, trainers, and other stupid mods that go completely undetected on the screenshots. In FFR, the laws are set in stone; there are far fewer ways to hack. It's obvious that you edited the Stepmania configuration settings. Once inside the SM folder, it takes only two double-clicks to enter the menu where you can edit the built-in timing windows. What you claim to be, I hope you understand, is the most accurate SM player in the world, (judging from the AAAAA's) yet some of your other scores suck. I know for a fact that anyone who knows anything about SM knows you faked a lot of your scores; do you think we're all fools?

OH WOW. It's funny how we have the same source. You forgot to add this one:

1.Being in compliance with the law; lawful: a legitimate business.
2.Being in accordance with established or accepted patterns and standards:
3.legitimate advertising practices.
4.Based on logical reasoning; reasonable: a legitimate solution to the problem.
5.Authentic; genuine: a legitimate complaint.

You do not need to understand a game to master or accel in it. Unlike you, I enjoy playing the game for what it is, not for what its made up of. Before you call me out and tell me that "if anyone knows SM" speak for yourself. Play me in SM. Because if you are consistant with your logic and agree with what you are saying, then since you know so much about SM, you should be able to beat me.

[LLaMaSaUceYup]

Ichiro_Suzuki_desu makes a very good point.

[Ichiro_Suzuki_desu]

Originally Posted by KA0Z R4VR

You do not need to understand a game to master or accel in it. Unlike you, I enjoy playing the game for what it is, not for what its made up of. Before you call me out and tell me that "if anyone knows SM" speak for yourself. Play me in SM. Because if you are consistant with your logic and agree with what you are saying, then since you know so much about SM, you should be able to beat me.

When did I ever say I play the game for what it's made up of? Also, why does knowledge of a subject have anything to do with performance or skill? By that logic, any coach of a professional sports team should be able to go play the game themselves and win more than the young athletes, since they know so much more about it and can manage situations better than the athletes. My manager should be able to beat me at baseball, because he knows so much more than I do about how it works.

Besides this irrelevant stuff, you're not legit, obviously, and confessing earlier makes your punishment less. There's some advice.

[KA0Z R4VR]

Originally Posted by Ichiro_Suzuki_desu

It's obvious that you edited the Stepmania configuration settings. Once inside the SM folder, it takes only two double-clicks to enter the menu where you can edit the built-in timing windows. What you claim to be, I hope you understand, is the most accurate SM player in the world, (judging from the AAAAA's) yet some of your other scores suck. I know for a fact that anyone who knows anything about SM knows you faked a lot of your scores; do you think we're all fools?

You are implying that since I am so good, and that for someone who boasts about scores, I don't seem to understand alot about StepMania, which is furthermore into what you are fighting yet, you are contradicting yourself by going against your logical arguement, by agreeing with me. Once again, if you feel as if you are better, then please feel free to prove me wrong.

[sonic-fast-fingers]

im sorry i just have to say something this asian guy trying to prove a point is possibly the ugliest person i have seen on this site.

[peckerxcore]

haha
FFR drama.
i think so
i stand with sonic and ka0z
dont hate just becuz u cant do it

[Ichiro_Suzuki_desu]

It has nothing to do with skill. I never said you were any good, nor did I ever say I could beat you. I merely said it's much more logical to assume that you BS'd scores using metrics hacking. It makes almost no sense that you came from nowhere and are suddenly the most accurate SM player on Ageha in the world. It makes MOUNTAINS more sense that you BS'd scores; it happens all the time, and it's pretty obvious in this case. So 'fess up and stop avoiding my allegations. That's the bottom line.

Sonic-fast-fingers, your ad hominem doesn't impress me.

peckerxcore: Do you realize he claims to have quintuple-A'd Ageha? Not even Nima (who is allegedly the most accurate SM player) has done so, as far as I know.

[KA0Z R4VR]

Originally Posted by peckerxcore

haha
FFR drama.
i think so
i stand with sonic and ka0z
dont hate just becuz u cant do it

thanks alot. only you killapron and sonic are with me on this one. please do not judge me on my ffr skill. they don't juxtapose to my accurate no random misses/avg/boos/goods/lag stepmania playing. FFR is just practice for me before i play SM. So my offer still stands - If anyone has a doubt about my scores/abilities then lets play SMO. Fair game, fair rules, same song, any mod. Thnx!

-Cream

[Ichiro_Suzuki_desu]

Your ignorance to my allegations nearly proves your illegitimacy.

[KA0Z R4VR]

Originally Posted by Ichiro_Suzuki_desu

It has nothing to do with skill. I never said you were any good, nor did I ever say I could beat you. I merely said it's much more logical to assume that you BS'd scores using metrics hacking. It makes almost no sense that you came from nowhere and are suddenly the most accurate SM player on Ageha in the world. It makes MOUNTAINS more sense that you BS'd scores; it happens all the time, and it's pretty obvious in this case. So 'fess up and stop avoiding my allegations. That's the bottom line.

Sonic-fast-fingers, your ad hominem doesn't impress me.

peckerxcore: Do you realize he claims to have quintuple-A'd Ageha? Not even Nima (who is allegedly the most accurate SM player) has done so, as far as I know.

OMFG NIMA! Oh wow. Thats why. Out of nowhere. Oh please buddy. I was here when FFR FIRST STARTED. THIS IS NOT MY OLD ACCOUNT [I lost it behalf of email changes] so yes out of somewhere Mr. I use Logic.

Nima is garbage. I can beat Nima any day. I have a x1.7 AAA quasar. Kitty Army has a x1.9! Nima is nothing and he never will. PLUS he is like 97230594 years old! He should get a life. And yes the AAAAA Ageha. But, no you obviously don't know much about the scores on SM because I am 1 of a handful of players who have done it. You are not so smart tech guy.

[Tasselfoot]

this entire argument is retarded. locked.