God.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

At that point though your creationism is a redundant and unnecessary component. Occam's Razor to the rescue!

You can believe that some outside force was required to start the system in motion, and I don't feel that to be redundant and unnecessary, because to me it is far simpler that such constants as needed to be exactly what they were in order for anything we know to exist were made that way, rather than were random out of the nigh infinite number of possible combinations.

Edit: its funny how people will look at the "747 in a bag" argument and say "No way it could happen randomly, the only reasonable explanation is that an outside force acted on the parts and built it" but when you extend the analogy to the entire universe, the same people say "No way, it was totally a bag that got shaken" and nobody seems keen to carry on the conclusion they once said was logical, that an outside force acted on the parts and built it.