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Old 07-24-2007, 12:08 AM   #21
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I don't like coffee.
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:24 AM   #22
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Diet soda is also bad for you:

Study: Diet soda associated with same heart risks as regular soda



(7/23/07 - BOSTON, MA) - People who drank more than one diet soda each day developed the same risks for heart disease as those who downed sugary regular soda, suggests a large but inconclusive study.


The results surprised the researchers who expected to see a difference between regular and diet soda drinkers. It could be, they suggest, that even no-calorie sweet drinks increase the craving for more sweets, and that people who indulge in sodas probably have less healthy diets overall. The study's senior author, Dr. Vasan Ramachandran, emphasized the findings don't show diet sodas are a cause of increased heart disease risks. But he said they show a surprising link that must be studied.

"It's intriguing and it begs an explanation by people who are qualified to do studies to understand this better," said Vasan, of Boston University School of Medicine.

However, a nutrition expert dismissed the study's findings on diet soda drinkers.

"There's too much contradictory evidence that shows that diet beverages are healthier for you in terms of losing weight that I would not put any credence to the result on the diet (drinks)," said Barry Popkin, of the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, who has called for cigarette-style surgeon general warnings about the negative health effects of soda.

Susan Neely, president of the American Beverage Association, said the notion that diet drinks are associated with bulging waistlines defies common sense.

"How can something with zero calories that's 99 percent water with a little flavoring in it ... cause weight gain?" she said.

The research comes from a massive, multi-generational heart study following residents of Framingham, Mass., a town about 25 miles west of Boston. The new study of 9,000 observations of middle-aged men and women was published Monday online in the journal Circulation.

The researchers found those who drank more than soda per day -- diet or regular -- had an increased risk of metabolic syndrome, compared to those who drank less than one soda. Metabolic syndrome is a cluster of symptoms that increase the risk for heart disease including large waistlines and higher levels of blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol and blood fats called triglycerides.

At the start of the study, those who reported drinking more than one soft drink a day had a 48 percent increased prevalence of metabolic syndrome compared to those who drank less soda.

Of participants who initially showed no signs of metabolic syndrome, those who drank more than one soda per day were at 44 percent higher risk of developing it four years later, they reported.

Researchers expected the results to differ when regular soda and diet soda drinkers were compared, and were surprised when they did not, Vasan said.
But Popkin said that result isn't that surprising. He said much of the market for diet sodas are people who have unhealthy lifestyles and know they need to lose weight -- with the other portion being thin people who want to stay that way. That means many people drinking diet sodas have unhealthy habits that could lead to increased heart disease risks, whether they drink diet soda or not.

In studies in which some users were randomly given diet sodas and others were given regular soda, diet soda drinkers lost weight and regular soda drinkers gained weight, Popkin said.

In a statement, the American Heart Association said it supports dietary patterns that include low-calorie beverages.

"Diet soda can be a good option to replace caloric beverages that do not contain important vitamins and minerals," the association said, adding further study is needed before any association between diet soda and heart risk factors would lead to public recommendations.

Vasan also said poor overall health habits may be one reason diet soda drinkers did not show lower heart disease risks in the Framingham study, but there hasn't been enough research to say for sure.

Another possible reason is a controversial theory called "dietary compensation," which holds that if someone drinks a large amount of liquids at a meal, they aren't satisfied and will tend to eat more at the next meal, Vasan said.

Other theories, Vasan said, are that people who drink a large amount of sweetened drinks are prone to develop a taste for sweeter foods, or that the substance that gives soda its caramel color promotes resistance to insulin, which is needed to process calories.

Without a more definitive explanation, Vasan offers only this advice to diet soda drinkers: "consume in moderation and stayed tuned for more research."


Source: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...lth&id=5503817
(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:27 AM   #23
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thank goodness i only drink rat poison
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:30 AM   #24
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Thank goodness all I drink is whiskey and vodka.
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Also the only time I really make an effort to consume soft drinks is when I'm doing other horribly unhealthy things, such as eating McDonalds. Otherwise a 12 pack of cola will last me more than a week
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:45 AM   #25
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ok hentai he took the time to post something WORTH discussion, and you are self-admittedly "bored" and yet you still don't take the time to read it? you are the cancer that is killing Chit Chat.

i drink a lot of diet soda, but a lot of water too so i guess it sort of evens out.
I seriously don't want to be hated, so I'm reading it rofl.

EDIT: Ok yea...going to stop drinking Dr Pepper now.

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Old 07-24-2007, 12:51 AM   #26
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:43 AM   #27
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Everything good is bad for you.

I lost interest in what can kill me and I just eat / drink everything.

I mean, what's the point in living a life of fear? Just eat what you want to eat, when you want to eat it.
My thoughts exactly.

By the way, did you know that American-produced milk is bad for you too? Apparently, the growth hormones often used on cows can be carcinogenic. Most juice has lots of sugar and is full of calories anyway. Coffee was already mentioned. The only thing to drink that's not bad for you is water--I'll give you that, most water is pretty safe.

So...what's safe to eat? Fruit and veggies? Pesticides. Meat? Again, growth hormones. Grain? Has carbs, makes you fat. Anything with sugar? All kinds of bad stuff, don't have to go there.

Also, lemonade was mentioned a couple times here, which is often LOADED with sugar and is often just as bad as something like Gatorade in that regard.

Guess you're stuck with water and food you grow in your backyard if you want to steer completely clear of food-related dangers. Bon appetit.
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Old 07-24-2007, 03:28 AM   #28
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Fruit and veggies? Pesticides.
Try organics.
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Meat? Again, growth hormones.
Again, organics.
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Grain? Has carbs, makes you fat.
Carbs are the most important nutrient to the human body. Just don't eat a whole pizza and expect to burn it off playing ffr.
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Anything with sugar? All kinds of bad stuff, don't have to go there.
Yeah, highly processed, refined sugar is bad. Try raw cane sugar or honey; they wont do the same damage and are just as sweet.

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The people who panic about this stuff will die just as soon as the people who dont care because the people who panic are dying faster from stress.
You would not believe how stressed I am right now. Every sip of water is like death.

I myself indulge once in awhile, and there's nothing wrong with that. The point is to do anything you can to be more healthy, without letting it ruin your life. It's really not that tough. I support everything in the article. Thanks for the post, maid.

I normally don't use this account for anything, but the levels of ignorance (and apathy) in this thread were bothering me.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:57 AM   #29
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Water makes me want to throw up (and sometimes I do) because it's so bland and tasteless. Ugh. I don't really give a damn about the negative effects of soda or anything else for that matter. I'd rather die early and happy instead of decrepid and miserable living off bottles of pills and going to the hospital all the time. No thank you.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:21 AM   #30
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i take flintstones vitamins
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:22 AM   #31
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woah... oh well YAY POISON!! XD
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:46 AM   #32
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If you don't drink it in excess it's not going to do much harm to you. Remember just to take everything in moderation.
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:03 PM   #33
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I used to drink a TONNNN of soda... but, when I was around 15 I wanted to drop some weight.. so I stopped drinking it, played basket ball, and BOOM.. all better. =)
I -do- drink it occasionally, but even when I do, now that I've gone so long without it it makes me feel like shat. My chest hurts from the carbonation, my tummybox is like "OMG SUGAR.. . . BARF". Just makes me feel like crap.. . Its funny, sometimes I'll have a craving for soda, but when I go to the store I end up getting juice or some bottled tea(that stuff can't even pass as tea >>)

When I went to center market in my town the other day with my mom, she went in by herself and came back horrified and giggling about this mom and kid she saw.. I was all "uhh, wtf?" and shes all "there was this TERRIBLE child in there kicking and screaming, and the mom kept saying "keep it up and you don't get your Juice!".... the "Juice" was SODA...... . . . YUCK!

Do parents WANT their children to be fat(diabetic), lazy, slobs of people?
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:40 PM   #34
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Everything society doesn't like is bad for some reason. Soda, fast food, and games must be all bad because the elitist jerks hate it!

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Old 07-24-2007, 01:52 PM   #35
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I run about 5 miles daily and drink mostly grape and orange juice, and have an occassional soda. I eat whatever but try to avoid fast food places. Taco Bell owns my soul unfortunately... It's so nasty... but it's sooo gooood.....
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:38 PM   #36
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I'm not going to stop drinking soft drinks. Particularly because all that ****ing propaganda about aspartame being poisonous has always been a bunch of bull****. It's dangerous in extremely high quantities, but so is practically everything else.
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I don't care if it's bad for me, I'll still drink it. It's not like I live off of coffee or soda or whatever.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:56 PM   #38
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Water makes me want to throw up (and sometimes I do) because it's so bland and tasteless. Ugh. I don't really give a damn about the negative effects of soda or anything else for that matter. I'd rather die early and happy instead of decrepid and miserable living off bottles of pills and going to the hospital all the time. No thank you.
Yah, because not drinking soda makes you miserable and not able enjoy life..... is your life that empty, that you need to drink soda to make you happy? ;p
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:59 PM   #39
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Who cares. Drink soda, Your going to die When you die. Live life to the Fullest. Have a Heart attack or two. It doesnt matter. Were all going to die soon enought. Might as well be happy.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:59 PM   #40
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honestly to me its jus eat or drink w/e, cuz im pretty active and i work out daily so its not like i have to worry ...unless its complete garbage then you should jus enjoy life, i mean its short enough y worry about wut goes into ur body...
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