Question about terms?

Stan64 · 07-21-2007, 07:05 PM

What is AV-miss and 4 framers?

rel89 · 07-21-2007, 08:10 PM

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=37697

EVerything you need is in there.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-21-2007, 08:11 PM

they relate to each other.

FFR runs off of frames, as does everything in Flash. there are 30 frames in each second. each arrow has a window for timing. AGPPPGG is the window. clearly, you want Perfects. BUT, if 2 arrows in the same direction are 4 frames apart, 1 of the perfect frames is overlapped by the average frame of the next arrow. therefore, if you hit the note in that frame, you'll get 1 average for hitting the 2nd arrow, a miss for the 1st arrow, and then a boo for not hitting anything with your 2nd arrow press. that is an average-miss.

hope that helps.

rel89 · 07-21-2007, 08:14 PM

4-framer - Two of the same arrow that are four frames apart. These will often cause what are known as "avmisses", which occur when you try to hit the first arrow too late, and run into the second one instead. To offset this, make sure to hit a bit early on these. Lots of them in quck succession can be very hard to FC and even harder to PA.

What Tass said, but easier to understand.

Stan64 · 07-21-2007, 08:43 PM

Ah, now I understand.

Tass got the best explanation, not hard at all to understand.

Thank you both! And I actually checked that topic first. But just the initial message.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-21-2007, 09:19 PM

you, sir, could use a shave. assuming you are your avatar.

ryanisadouche · 07-22-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

you, sir, could use a shave. assuming you are your avatar.

hahaha that's the single best post. ever. period.

**Silver_Brian** · 07-22-2007, 12:29 PM

But he's Swedish.

Edit: and he's been here long time holy **** longer than me lol. Longer than Tass too lol.

Stan64 · 07-24-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

you, sir, could use a shave. assuming you are your avatar.

Haha, I shave from time to time but that unshaved face is kinda my trademark. ^^ I'm actually born in Russia, but I was raised and live in Sweden. =)

falcondude · 07-24-2007, 07:12 PM

Wait... no offense, but you joined in 2003 and you don't know what 4 framers are?

Stan64 · 07-25-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by falcondude

Wait... no offense, but you joined in 2003 and you don't know what 4 framers are?

Correct, I knew some arrows overlapped eachother but and you needed to press earlier to get them. But I didn't know what they were called.

07-21-2007, 07:05 PM	#1
Stan64 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Question about terms? What is AV-miss and 4 framers?

07-21-2007, 08:10 PM	#2
rel89 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 37 Posts: 2,046	Re: Question about terms? http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=37697 EVerything you need is in there. __________________ AAA's: 171 (1 + 9) Most recent Godly AAA: Platypus, Koala In The Spider's Web, Intense Colors, Tell, Agenda X Average: 535.3877 Tier Points: 206 (206 + 0 for 167 AAAs) SM/GH3/FFR vids

07-21-2007, 08:11 PM	#3
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: Question about terms? they relate to each other. FFR runs off of frames, as does everything in Flash. there are 30 frames in each second. each arrow has a window for timing. AGPPPGG is the window. clearly, you want Perfects. BUT, if 2 arrows in the same direction are 4 frames apart, 1 of the perfect frames is overlapped by the average frame of the next arrow. therefore, if you hit the note in that frame, you'll get 1 average for hitting the 2nd arrow, a miss for the 1st arrow, and then a boo for not hitting anything with your 2nd arrow press. that is an average-miss. hope that helps. __________________ RIP

07-21-2007, 08:14 PM	#4
rel89 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 37 Posts: 2,046	Re: Question about terms? 4-framer - Two of the same arrow that are four frames apart. These will often cause what are known as "avmisses", which occur when you try to hit the first arrow too late, and run into the second one instead. To offset this, make sure to hit a bit early on these. Lots of them in quck succession can be very hard to FC and even harder to PA. What Tass said, but easier to understand. __________________ AAA's: 171 (1 + 9) Most recent Godly AAA: Platypus, Koala In The Spider's Web, Intense Colors, Tell, Agenda X Average: 535.3877 Tier Points: 206 (206 + 0 for 167 AAAs) SM/GH3/FFR vids

07-21-2007, 08:43 PM	#5
Stan64 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 45	Re: Question about terms? Ah, now I understand. Tass got the best explanation, not hard at all to understand. Thank you both! And I actually checked that topic first. But just the initial message.

07-21-2007, 09:19 PM	#6
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: Question about terms? you, sir, could use a shave. assuming you are your avatar. __________________ RIP

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