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Old 06-16-2007, 08:17 AM   #41
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My guess on the point of life is that it is just like....a period of time that shows if you are actually religious, which is VERY ****EN HARD TO BE!!
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:30 AM   #42
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I exist because of its grace.
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:05 AM   #43
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The easiest way to tackle this is to hit it from the roots, which is more or less a semantic debate. You have to look at the word point, which stems from the meaning of something.

Meaning, being the determined significance of some thing or event is purely relativistic. It is something that spawned when there was a being with significant enough neural activity to understand the happenings around it, and from there create meaning for these happenings. As humans are creators of meaning, no event can hold the same significance in each mind, and in order to address the meaning of life you have to look at it from different levels.

Assuming there was a divine creator, you could look at the universe from it's perspective, and the meaning of existance could be how it views our lives. However, this is only one of many meanings to life, as there is no such thing as universal meaning; being a purely relativistic phenomenon, the meaning each of us creates is equally one of many. The meaning of life, from your perspective, is purely whatever meaning you give to it, and is only one of many meanings life can have


So essentially, the question in itself is a poor question, as it does not merit an answer. It doesn't really have an answer, and never will. It will always have an indefinite number of equally correct answers.


It is also a very different question than 'Why are we here?', which has an answer. There is undoubtfully some sequence of events that has led to our existance. However, whether or not these events mean anything depends on who's observing them.


I know that for some, it can be easy to feel insignificant without some higher form of meaning holding their hand a long the way. If anything, the message I take from this is that life is what you make of it, and if you choose to do something great with it you will. Finding the strength within you to create your own significance will get you farther than hoping for everything to be laid out infront of you.
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:56 PM   #44
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Where did reason come into this?

Also, purpose = "point" of life (not just humanity) = to efficiently reduce Earth's thermal gradient.

I'm not entirely certain I understand where you're going with your posts, devonin, so if you could please clarify I hope to be able to answer your questions better.

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Old 06-16-2007, 10:13 PM   #45
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Okay I didn't read every post in the topic, so i might be repeating.

In my opinion, I think it is to reproduce and pass your genes on. I mean what is life but self replicating molecules? We got our start when proteins(or the one that formed dna and they started to copy, forgot exactly) starting making copies of themselves, and slowly they began to group together to form communities each serving a different function, alol the way until you get to an organism. Because of this, no matter how complex oyu get, it all goes back to replicating molecules.
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Where did reason come into this?

Also, purpose = "point" of life (not just humanity) = to efficiently reduce Earth's thermal gradient.

I'm not entirely certain I understand where you're going with your posts, devonin, so if you could please clarify I hope to be able to answer your questions better.
I asked you how it was a greater cause that you were put here to serve and you said "I exist because of its grace." My response was intending to say "To me that implies that it is the -reason- you exist in the sense of 'How I came to be' in the way that people would usually say that the -reason- I exist is that my mother gave birth to me.

And I was asserting that there is a difference between the -reason- you exist and the -purpose- for which you exist.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:20 AM   #47
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what is the point of life? i have no idea. do you?
I think every human being on this planet is as confused as you are, but we can speculate. There are a few common perspectives on life...

1) There is no point. We're simply here.

2) The scientific perspective, to reproduce and to survive, nothing else.

3) An optimists view, to make the world a better place for everyone to live in.

4) A pessimistic view, to rot away slowly as soon as we're born.

5) A religious view, to follow God. (I'm not religious myself.)

6) To do what you enjoy, and get whatever you can out of your time here.

Generally, everyone falls into one of these categories, more or less, and to differing extremes. I've tossed the "meaning of life" question around in my head for quite some time, and have ventured into each of the categories (spare religion) at least once. In the end, I've actually decided it's best not to think about the question... it drives you insane. This is simply because there is no one, set answer to rule over all humans. The meaning of life is whatever you choose for it to be, and I leave it at that to keep my sanity.
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I asked you how it was a greater cause that you were put here to serve and you said "I exist because of its grace." My response was intending to say "To me that implies that it is the -reason- you exist in the sense of 'How I came to be' in the way that people would usually say that the -reason- I exist is that my mother gave birth to me.
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying now.

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And I was asserting that there is a difference between the -reason- you exist and the -purpose- for which you exist.
I think my confusion came about because I see the Second Law as BOTH the reason I exist AND the purpose for which I exist. As such, I neglected to divorce the two ideas.

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