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Originally Posted by Hollus

Well, Francis Collins seems to be a very reasonable and openminded person. Unfortunately, lots of people insist on the validity of their holy books, usually written thousands of years ago (There are exceptions, obviously. The Mormons come to mind.) in the face of logic, science and common sense. Some people believe that religion and science are completely incompatable, scientists and religious people alike. There are fundamental questions that science has so far been incapable of answering, and Theistic Evolution may be the answer of our existance and that of the universe.

However, I wouldn't be so quick to jump to the simple solution. Even if science doesn't have a plausible theory about the absolute origin of our universe (before the Big Bang), it doesn't mean they won't have one in the future. Even if you tie the concept of creationism and theistic evolution in with science, saying "We can't understand it right now, so God must have done it" isn't the best idea.

Finding a semi-plausible theory and declaring the case closing is just taking the easy way out. (But I still respect your religious openmindedness to science. No offence.)

Well, I don't trust science to solve the meaning of the universe anytime within our lifetimes, so for now I prefer Theistic Evolution. Heck, if God comes down from the sky and says "everything the Bible says is true," I'll become an evangelist. I don't know what will happen in the future to solve the mystery, so we should all believe in whatever we would prefer to believe, as long as it doesn't contradict the facts, until new facts arise that do contradict what we already believe. Otherwise we would all be nihilists. And btw I'm not tying in creationism into any of this, creationism is a fundementalist theory, it is not science.