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Old 05-23-2007, 03:10 AM   #21
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I built my self a pc, it can run ffr lag free, play latest fps games on max settings, also tried running them at same time, still nice fps. There you have it. Even if antivirus kicks in during a ffr session it wont lag anyway.

This is all done easily with measily c2d OC'ed to 3.3 1:1 Gskill ram 2gigs and a 7900GS KO eVGA card, lets nor forget the 150gig raptor ;p
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:22 AM   #22
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Dream compy? ok.

Let's go with:

Core 2 Duo Extreme QX6700 2.66GHz 8MB Cache 1066MHz
at least 4GB 800MHz Low-Latency DDR2 SDRAM (really can't imagine what I'd need more for...)
Windows XP Media Center Edition
RAID 0 2x 1TB HD Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ 2 x 32MB Cache
Dual CD/DVD ROM Drives - one for blazing CD/DVD R/W, other for Blu-Ray
SLI 768MB nVidia 8800 Ultra
Ageia PSU - 128MB GDDR3
27" Ultrasharp Monitor
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi "XtremeGamer High Definition 7.1 Audio"
would probably need at least a kilowatt power supply

yum.

The 8800 Ultra's a piece of ****. Go with the GTX models. For the price of two Ultras SLI'd, you can easily get two GTX models and spend the other $500 on a processor upgrade.

And the QX6700 is a Core 2 Extreme, not a Core 2 Duo. Highly overclockable, and not to mention quad core. Reports of running smoothly at 3.2 ghz. The QX6800 can't do much better in overclocking, even if its factory speed is 2.93 ghz. You'll have to wait until the real QX6800 comes out if you want it, though. The current ones are limited supply and aren't any good.

What about your motherboard? That's one of your most important components.

You don't need a 1000w power supply for that. a 650 would do fine, depending upon how much you overclock.

Oh, and, you don't need a quad core for gaming kids. A Core 2 Extreme dual core processor is more than enough.

Not to mention that you can get a piece of **** pentium D and get that baby to 3.6 easy with the right cooling and run a lot of things, or if you do what I do for the lower end at the moment, go AMD, get an ASUS Crosshair, and buy a $200 AMD Athalon 5600+ dual core 2.8ghz. Highly overclockable. You can put together a kick-ass gaming rig that runs pretty fast for about $1,500, and that's including 2gb of some of the best ram in the market, a pretty good case, and some SLI'd cards. That is, unless you've got a 2560x1600 res 30 inch screen and want Oblivion's outdoor environment running at max res at 5 million frames per second without any hiccups.

Now's not the time for the high-end stuff. Intel's spending a lot of cash and research into the newer architecture, and every two years there's going to be a new line of processors, each smaller than the last. The farthest projected development I know of is in 2011. Not only that, games aren't taking advantage of Vista yet, and they certainly aren't built to support quad core processors. While quad cores have been shown to dramatically improve performance when implemented, there's no indication that most games will take full advantage of them until at least a year from now. If you're looking to build a system that will last, don't bother buying a huge amount of expensive components and getting the best on the market. The bleeding-edge QX6800 and QX6850 will come out in Q3, and you'll probably pay $1500 for the latter... and when you'll actually use it to its full potential, everybody else will be picking it up for under the $1,000 mark.

I know we're talking about dream PCs, but you have to think, to what end? A PC's only a lump of metal, silicon, and plastic arranged all pretty-like until you put it to use, so no matter what kind of plastic and metal you pick up, it won't mean a damn if it's for nothing. Make sense?

Take it this way, if you're a dream gamer, wouldn't your dream PC be that which you can put to the most use, instead of something that's better suited towards other applications? Maybe I'm going on a ridiculous tirade here, but something tells me that a system running a server motherboard with two quadcore 2.66 (or in mac's case, 3.0)ghz Xeons isn't going to mean anything to somebody who feels like playing World of Warcraft. Now, a system that has a highly overclockable processor with a great GPU and overclocking-supportive motherboard might mean just a little more. And you know what? If it costs less and has a few lower numbers, does that make it any less of a dream PC?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a system running 4 AMD processors at 3.2 Ghz overclocked, but at that point it's just a mess and the only use you'd have for it is a time-consuming high-maintenance show-off wanking machine.
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because the venom gets into the blood stream which
spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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Old 05-23-2007, 04:29 AM   #23
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my low end c2d and 7900GS runs everything at max sets with great fps. What is the point of something better for now? Just wait till they are cheap and tada. Hardware nowadays is way ahead of the software curve. You don't really need the latest and the fastest, to get the maximum performance. Gosh I even tried running, at same time FEAR, UNREAL, Defrag, loaded like 50 tabs in Fox, ran antivirus and still had avg of 45FPS in FEAR at 1440 900 native, max sets. Now, who realistically does that. Now picture yourself having a sli 8800's etc... if my measily 7900GS, a castrated 7900 btw, could do it.

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Old 05-23-2007, 04:43 AM   #24
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my low end c2d and 7900GS runs everything at max sets with great fps. What is the point of something better for now? Just wait till they are cheap and tada. Hardware nowadays is way ahead of the software curve. You don't really need the latest and the fastest, to get the maximum performance. Gosh I even tried running, at same time FEAR, UNREAL, Defrag, loaded like 50 tabs in Fox, ran antivirus and still had avg of 45FPS in FEAR at 1440 900 native, max sets. Now, who realistically does that. Now picture yourself having a sli 8800's etc... if my measily 7900GS, a castrated 7900 btw, could do it.
Well, I think everybody's vision of a "dream PC", is the equivalent of a golden toilet. Very expensive, very beautiful, but only for unimaginative turds, and it all goes to **** anyway.

Instead of the golden toilet, go for the one that washes your ass and warms the seat while it brings you live video feed of the hot girl next door coming out of the shower nude.
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"If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
because the venom gets into the blood stream which
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changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:29 AM   #25
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No OS can handle 32 GB of RAM - Flyeef you are a dumb ass. Those specs aren't even that good, and you mightaswell just get freeware Linux if you want a shitty operating system.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:44 AM   #26
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Hope you all realize that for the next few years, the upper limit of computers pretty much won't change.

You can add as much crap as you want, but it won't do much. All anyone needs right now as a MAXIMUM is 2GB RAM, a nice 256MB video card, and a Core Duo. That right there will get you playing Crysis, which is, by far, the most intensive PC game ever.

ps - lights and glowy crap is the worst idea ever. A window is helpful, but blue crap will keep you up at night.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:33 PM   #27
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Hope you all realize that for the next few years, the upper limit of computers pretty much won't change.

You can add as much crap as you want, but it won't do much. All anyone needs right now as a MAXIMUM is 2GB RAM, a nice 256MB video card, and a Core Duo. That right there will get you playing Crysis, which is, by far, the most intensive PC game ever.

ps - lights and glowy crap is the worst idea ever. A window is helpful, but blue crap will keep you up at night.
You can still get significantly more power out of a Core 2 Extreme 6800 (the dual core version), and a 512 card provides more headroom. Don't forget Oblivion's outdoor environment. That's intense, and requires one of the top cards to run smoothly at a reasonably high res. You're quite right that most of the high-end components won't be made use of, for the most part, in gaming. Only in other applications will they be of any use.

For instance, I have a Core 2 Quad 2.4 Ghz in this system, so that I can handle multitasking well given that this is a music-making workstation. The quad core architecture happens to work to my advantage (somewhat). Games only use either one or two cores at the moment, and the performance gain you'd get by spreading windows background apps out over the other two cores is questionable at best when you could just have a high-end dual core.

So, I disagree that your posted specs are the maximum, but I fully agree that getting a QX6800 and overclocking it along with two 8800 Ultras SLI'd just makes somebody a turd-face.
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"If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
because the venom gets into the blood stream which
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changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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"Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
"My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."
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I want a computer that is attached to a jet-pack so I can fly around the world and leech people's wireless.
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Hi.

My computer is three years old and I can run Oblivion on max.

I paid a little over a grand for it.

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My computer's a couple weeks old and it can run Oblivion on max.


I paid less than 800$ for it.
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Yeah, someone build me a really good laptop computer. (I'd naturally get a desktop, but I'm in college, moving in and out of the country constantly, and I like being mobile. At the very least I'd like to run Vanguard:Saga of Heroes at a decent frame rate (and by that I mean: highest frame rate)).
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I would LOVE to assemble my own Laptop computer. =( However there just aren't many options available for people to custom build their laptop. Closest thing you could get is probably one of those custom HP laptops they offer at Hewlett Packard.


If I can fit what I have as a desktop, into a laptop, that would be my dream computer. Portability and usability over anything.
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I want a computer that is attached to a jet-pack so I can fly around the world and leech people's wireless.
Hehehe... funny

My dream computer is already something I'm investing in..

It will be about 1800 if I get it right.

The 6600 or 6700 core 2 duo processor.
Some motherboard that can be upgraded (from Asus)
2g of ram (1g sticks duh)
2-250g hard drives
Windows XP pro (best there is)
nvidia gts 8800 (only 320mb of vram instead of 640)
creative soundblaster audigy (good for only 30 dollars lol)
uhh 2 lightscribe dvd drives
uhhhhhh, oh yeah! one of those 13-in-one card readers that also read and write floppys.
not much else I can say, I think that's about it
Oh yeah-- fans with blue led lights on them
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I would LOVE to assemble my own Laptop computer. =( However there just aren't many options available for people to custom build their laptop. Closest thing you could get is probably one of those custom HP laptops they offer at Hewlett Packard.


If I can fit what I have as a desktop, into a laptop, that would be my dream computer. Portability and usability over anything.
Actually there's quite a market out there for custom building laptops. It's not hard to find a shell and there are lots of different options for the internal parts.

and I'd love to see how your setups handle Oblivion, show me plzkthx, because I just can't see an $800 computer running oblivion's outdoor environments with max settings and max res running at a decent framerate with no hiccups.
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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
"If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
because the venom gets into the blood stream which
spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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"Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
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hey organism, build me a laptop. ;D
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i only said ultra because it was the most advanced one i saw on the page i was on. i haven't researched it at all. as for a motherboard, i know next to nil about them, let's say a nVidia 680i, because i don't know offhand a better one and i don't care to look.

I forgot to delete "Duo." It was late and I was tired.

I wasn't really being very serious. We've talked about what I'm actually looking for in a computer. Here's an update:

As of now I'm going to buy a Dell XPS 710 in the near future (read: once I have the money) with:
Core 2 Duo E6600 4MB L2 Cache, 2.4GHz, 1066 FSB
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 4 DIMMs
7-slot, BTX design motherboard
Windows XP Media Center Edition
320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
256MB nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS
AGEIA PhysX physics accelerator
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic (D) Sound Card
750-watt power supply
2.5MM aluminum thickness Chassis with front & back customizable LEDs
Tower Six-heat pipe, Copper base Heat Sink with aluminum fans
Two 120mm x 38mm front fans

I'm sure that'll accomplish everything I want it to, being casual gaming. WoW, EQ2, Heroes of Might and Magic 5, Age of Empires 3, ...maplestory
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i only said ultra because it was the most advanced one i saw on the page i was on. i haven't researched it at all. as for a motherboard, i know next to nil about them, let's say a nVidia 680i, because i don't know offhand a better one and i don't care to look.

I forgot to delete "Duo." It was late and I was tired.

I wasn't really being very serious. We've talked about what I'm actually looking for in a computer. Here's an update:

As of now I'm going to buy a Dell XPS 710 in the near future (read: once I have the money) with:
Core 2 Duo E6600 4MB L2 Cache, 2.4GHz, 1066 FSB
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 4 DIMMs
7-slot, BTX design motherboard
Windows XP Media Center Edition
320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
256MB nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS
AGEIA PhysX physics accelerator
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic (D) Sound Card
750-watt power supply
2.5MM aluminum thickness Chassis with front & back customizable LEDs
Tower Six-heat pipe, Copper base Heat Sink with aluminum fans
Two 120mm x 38mm front fans

I'm sure that'll accomplish everything I want it to, being casual gaming. WoW, EQ2, Heroes of Might and Magic 5, Age of Empires 3, ...maplestory
20 inch UltraSharp™ 2007WFP Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
How much are you paying for that? You can do a lot more with a 2.8ghz AMD FX-2 which costs loads less than the core 2 duo and is way better for the price..
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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
"If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
because the venom gets into the blood stream which
spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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"Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
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Without bells and other assorted prepackaged whistles it's 2.7k which is extremely expensive but the best you can get for a prebuilt. That 2.7k includes basic keyboard/mouse, speakers, anti-virus software, 1-year warranty, and a few things I'm forgetting. The packages make it somewhat worthwhile as I add on software, games, external storage, etc. I end up paying about 3.1k for the whole thing.

i have a somewhat irrational hatred of AMD. don't ask why.
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Just built it yourself, Its really damn easy and you can get double performance ratio compared to pre-built junk ridden hogs. 1st rule of things when, buying a Dell, don't buy it, If you did, format it right away. Talking strictly about desktops here in case you laptop people decide to come up in arms. ;o rule #2 applies to laptops as well.

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