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Old 05-20-2007, 02:56 PM   #41
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Space is not infinite, or at least that is the general consenus among scientists right now.

You realize the conditions under which life can form have a percentage that is infitessimally low. Even with suitable conditions for life, you need a way for the life to begin. Such combinations of elements and energy needed to form this is hard to come by. I suppose with all the time and area there is, eventually other life will come, or already has come, but don't act like we're in the boondocks on the outside of a bustling city of civilizations.
If you compare the chances of life existing with the size of the universe, there is definitely life out there. They already found on the news a planet only 30 light years away that could support life. Europa, a moon of Jupiter, is said to have water under its icy exterior that could easily be supporting alien aquatic life. Mars is believed to have once had water.
With a stable body of water comes a huge chance of life. Maybe there is no great Federation of planets out there, but I wouldn't be surprised if we've missed a few interstellar wars.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:34 AM   #42
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Default Re: Do you belive in Aliens and UFO's?

Scientists believe that water may be a factor in the creation of life. They do not know for sure that water = life. Water has the potential to equal life, but other factors are obviously included.

Yes, I realize that with the size of the universe, the chances of life occuring rise. This doesn't mean that it is definite though.

I read about that planet, they said that the atmosphere was suitable for life, but they weren't sure of the surface or other factors that could present a problem. Energy and heat always is needed, for any kinetic reaction.

Interstellar wars, haha. Then I suppose you assume the life out there is far more intelligent than ours, and not merely bacteria developing. This is more of a guess, since life could have developed anytime in the estimated 14 billion year old history of the universe.

All I'm saying is that life out there is not definite, it's probable, but not definite.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:09 AM   #43
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Life on other planets has to exist, there are far too many opportunities for it not to. As for "UFO's" I actually do believe in them, but I believe that they are unmanned survey type craft, because even NASA space videos have shown objects just turn at 90 degrees on a whim. No being can survive the amount of G force a turn like that would create, especially going at a bare minimum of 10,000 mph.

We send out probes and satellites to other planets FAR before we are even remotely close to being able to visit them, so in my opinion that's what some "UFO's" may very well be, but I'm sure most of them are just retarded people looking at airplanes.
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:06 AM   #44
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Space is not infinite, or at least that is the general consenus among scientists right now.

You realize the conditions under which life can form have a percentage that is infitessimally low. Even with suitable conditions for life, you need a way for the life to begin. Such combinations of elements and energy needed to form this is hard to come by. I suppose with all the time and area there is, eventually other life will come, or already has come, but don't act like we're in the boondocks on the outside of a bustling city of civilizations.
Yea, space isn't infinite. It's not really a concensus but more or less a fact (at least with regard to space that is actually visible ;p).

Though there are probably a billion planetary systems in our galaxy alone, and from what we know there are at least several hundred billion galaxies we can see.

We've also only looked at less than 300 extrasolar planets and have already found one completely covered in frozen water and another one with 'earth-like' conditions.

There's probably plenty of life out there. We probably would definitely know if they came to visit us, though ;p I would say the chances of advanced life, I.E. far more advanced than we are, would be relatively rare. Such civilizations are probably spread out across vast distances from eachother. Therefore the chances of them ever finding another advanced civilization is almost non existant, though there are probably many planets with some types of life...probably even very intelligent life, completely incapable of space exploration (for example, dolphins/whales).

Even given there were thousands of civilizations more advanced than we were, they could easily be over a billion lightyears away from their closest advanced neighbor. I doubt we've been visited by aliens, at least recently, as the discovery would probably be immensely important to them. I doubt they would simply spend their time sneaking around in the night leaving brief glismes of themselves, with various abductions and probings but no evidence.
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