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And as for alternatives to oil: none of them are cost effective, even if they exist. Basically, oil alternatives are too costly to produce to replace oil. Not only that, but the roots of the oil industry are very deep... think of how many gas stations and car companies rely on selling of gasoline. Imagine how much it would cost to make a massive switch over to an alternate source of energy.
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![]() I paid like $2.66 today.
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![]() Well, stretchy, that's because there's oil in everybody's backyards in Texas and you could just let the oil sit out in the scorching Texas sun for awhile to distill it. Some people who don't like getting their hands dirty, of course, don't do this, but overall the demand in Texas is low due to that.
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EXPLAIN MY LOW PRICES NOW. |
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Those prices aren't low. Prices dropped under two dollars in the winter. That was low. They're just low compared to the rest of the country. Especially Chicago. Man, the oil companies must just ****ing hate us.
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![]() Yea, I'm from Texas and the prices are an average $2.80/per gallon.
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![]() Hitting $3.60 here in California. My car gets really good gas mileage, but gas still eats my bank account. =((((
I didn't buy gas on the 15th either, or a few days before, and I think I can go another 2 or 3 days, BOYCOTT I SAY. |
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Saying "don't buy gas this day" doesn't work, AS HAS BEEN SAID, because you'll just buy it later. You're not costing them money, you're just delaying the time it takes them to get your money. You myspace whores really wanna hit the gas companies, make a chain mail that says "stop driving your car".
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![]() I saw a thing on Yahoo news a week or so ago that said that the big problem is that a lot of countries have gas subsidies, so the government pays for the gas and then gives it to the citizens for like 10 cents per gallon. And it stays at that price no matter what the oil companies are charging the government. The article was saying that THAT is the big problem, because it eliminates the effects of demand, since the people in those countries (which the article said made up a huge portion of the gas consumption worldwide) are gonna buy the same amount of gas all the time, for the same price.
Really, people just need to stop buying SUVs and get hybrids. There's nothing wrong with hybrids, really. I don't know why there has been such opposition to getting them. Really, hybrids oughta be common and cheap enough to be next to the normal cars. They shouldn't be off to themselves in a corner like "ewww, don't buy that, buy this Hummer! It gets 2 miles per gallon!! =D" Also, like I said at first, we're not the only ones using gas. Yeah, the US has a huge number of cars, but we also have government-imposed requirements on fuel efficiency. Other countries, as they get more and more cars, have little to no requirements and so, even though they don't have as many cars, they end up buying tons of gas. Really, unless we get the whole world to start driving super fuel efficient cars and walking more often than they drive, we're not going to change anything. Good luck changing lots of countries, much less just the US, though. =\
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![]() Gas costs 2.95 here.
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![]() ours is like 2.80, 2.90
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![]() Goverment can't give gas 10 cents per galleon when it costs more then that to just tap the oil, much less refine it. I think you may be confusing with another another measurement unit considering the rest of the world uses the metric system and charge for gas by the litre.
Obviosuly other countries (China being the land of oppurtunity now) are rapidly buying more oil everyda; however, unlike America. Other countires use oil primarily for energy (America obviosuly for transportation.) The problem is, in a decade or two, China will probably need just as much oil as America. When that happens our prices will really soar. As stated in an earlier post; the only solution is to find an alternative sources. Someone stated earlier that alternative sources have been created but shut down by the oil companies. To date, there has been absolutely NO alternative resources that can be used in the market as a substitute for gas. As of today, Ethanol is the most promising alternative source of energy. Pure Ethanol is made entirely out of corn, this abolishes the need oil to be refined into gas. Unfortunately, that technology is still out of our reach; the best ethanol we can produce today on a mass market scale will have at least 25% gasoline. In addition to that, Ethanol gets less miles to the galleon than gasoline. This "impure" type of ethanol is what gasoline companies try to prevent. This is a mix of contracts and codes which makes it much more expensive to put this kind of ethanol at your local gas station. Even so, ethanol may eventually become a huge problem, can we produce and gather enough corn to run our entire country? I would agree that the oil companies aren't happy about alternative sources for fuel; however, we have found any other efficent sources. Eventually, our prices we match those of Europe's (http://www.caranddriver.com/dailyaut...n-england.html) Note: The seven dollars a gallon is a rough estimation based on the conversion from litre to gallon. I would like to emphasize that this not because of the "big bad oil companies" or whatever nonesense so many of you believe in. It is simply the market price that can be accredited to S&D. Also about hybrids. Currently there are only 2 super fuel efficent hybrids on the market. That is the Toyota Prius (first one) and the Honda Accord. There are other cars called hybrids (because they do incorporate gas+electric power.) But they are not even close to being considered SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emissions vechile.) These cars were only introduced three years ago, and only this year did they come out with the option to get the "full package" deal. Yes those cars are nice, but they are more expesnive then most of Toyota's and Honda's other models. I don't know about you, but I can't just decide to buy a new car when. suddenly, a new model comes out. In reality, driving hybrids will only cause demand to go down (because we don't need as much) which will still result in prices to go up (so it doesn't solve the problem of "gas prices") Nonetheless, it would give us more time to find alternative sources. Any energy economist (other than the one's working for oil companies.) will tell you that we need to find a new source of fuel and hopefully energy as well. |
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![]() I did it...considering I don't have acar it was quite easy...
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Gas is reaching $3.50 in northern PA, near NY though so I imagine it will go higher before summer hits. Driving around sucks anymore with the high price.
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![]() Gas around here has jumped big time. Last night on my way home I noticed it was $3.16 and this morning on my way to school it jumped to $3.52 and by the time school was over it was up to $3.65 at the same station.
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![]() As for alternative fuels, ethanol is relatively uneconomical. I believe that Brazil or some country uses almost only ethanol, yet the difference is that they get their ethanol from sugar cane, NOT CORN. Even if we did switch over to ethanol, it would be almost completely insane to try and grow that much corn, not to mention that weather would have a much bigger effect on the market than it does now. We would also have to eat less corn considering it would be used to make fuel, and we would have to do without as much high fructose corn syrup, also made from corn.
Hydrogen powered cars would be an excellent alternative, considering they get fairly good mileage and hydrogen is a renewable resource. Add to that the fact that hydrogen fuel cells have been refined to a point where they used to take up the whole back of a full size van, but can now be fit into a space the size of a car chassis (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/02...r-on-youtube/). You can also use a hydrogen powered engine which you could just switch with the current engine in your car. However the prices for hydrogen would be much more than gasoline is now until the whole country was switched over and until we had established companies providing hydrogen in the first place. Also, filling a hydrogen tank, and in essence just getting large amounts of hydrogen is currently not as easy as it seems, although it is feasible and would just require some elbow grease from our governments to get the whole project going. |
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![]() Soul, hydrogen fuel has been proposed; but there is one major flaw with it.
If I accidently bump you in the rear, just a tiny bit... BOOM! However.. if you would want a detailed list of additional drawbacks that prove that hydrogen power is not the way of the future read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroge...l_difficulties |
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![]() I have an idea. Use wave energy. Just give it a splash and the waves will be able to start your carwith their energy. Then the movement of your car will continue to power the car as you travel. I read about that in Discovery magazine. They just need to find a way to capture the wave's energy and then they will be able to do that.
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