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Old 05-4-2007, 12:53 PM   #21
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Spite.

That's how.

Oil prices are a monopoly. They can make something up to put the blame of the price hike, then go ahead and do whatever they want with it.

Hooray for elasticity. Nobody will buy gas less. Take economics. Gas prices are the one thing people care about, but can't do anything about. It's not like McDonalds starts charging $4 for a burger, so you go across the street to Burger King. No. It's Exxon charges $4.50. Mobil charges $4.50. Sunoco charges $4.50. BP charges $4.50. Shell charges $4.50.
Squeek, are you aware that price gouging is, under certain circumstances, a felony?

Ridiculous gas prices could turn into anarchy. The government does not like anarchy. A rise in gas prices can incite a panic that nobody in charge wants to deal with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

Price gouging is illegal during an emergency. Could price gouging itself, especially in the case of our precious oil, be a national emergency? I think so. And, it's only being incited by our very own corporations. The government could step in at any point and end this, provided the gouging is found to be breaching law.

Instead of that happening (and we know that could very well happen and it could be ugly), why don't we do something small that can potentially help us all?
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:00 PM   #22
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If you want to do something more productive to hurt the oil industry, invest in a bicycle and persuade your friends to do the same.
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THIS is where you get them. Like I said, one day of not buying gasoline will get all those facebook twits a mention on CNN and not much else. Oil companies might release a statement saying they appreciate the input of their customers and are doing everything they can to save us more money.

If you want to make an impact on an industry as huge and powerful as the oil industry, you can't just rebel for a day. You have to resolve to completely reduce your consumption of their product, which means buying a bike or utilizing public transportation.

What's really amusing is that the kids making all the facebook groups are the same kids who drive from their dorm to class because it's "too far to walk".
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:14 PM   #23
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You guys know this does absolutely nothing right? The places you buy your gas from will just make more money on May 14th and 16th. GAH Why do I miss these thread? My post would have been so much more worthwhile if it hadn't already been posted. Oh well.

Oil is such a demanded product that no matter how high the prices go, people will still buy it because it is so necessary to everyday life.
Don't confuse this with DOING something )

Look at this from as esoteric message.

Come on folks, don't make me open a thread about this in critical thinking )
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:17 PM   #24
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QFT/E/ETC.

THIS is where you get them. Like I said, one day of not buying gasoline will get all those facebook twits a mention on CNN and not much else. Oil companies might release a statement saying they appreciate the input of their customers and are doing everything they can to save us more money.

If you want to make an impact on an industry as huge and powerful as the oil industry, you can't just rebel for a day. You have to resolve to completely reduce your consumption of their product, which means buying a bike or utilizing public transportation.

What's really amusing is that the kids making all the facebook groups are the same kids who drive from their dorm to class because it's "too far to walk".
Stretchy, but that IS the point. Who is measuring the results past the publicity it generates?

To say its useless to even discuss it is taking more effort on your part than not showing up at the pump ...

Don't you get that this is a "do nothing" move?
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:18 PM   #25
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Default Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

I drive a bicycle. Wouldn't be buying gas that day anyways...

And if people don't buy gas on the 15th, they will still need to either buy gas before or refuel shortly afterward - they aren't changing their consumption of fuel or the oil companies' profit in any way. And as for the publicity - people do not need to be told that oil prices are high - it's an obvious thing. We've been noticing the prices for how many years now, and until we actually find a solution we are not doing anything except complaining...
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:26 PM   #26
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Default Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

See, I'm probably not going to buy gas May 15th, because I'll be at home, and I won't need gas because I'll have nowhere to go.

I'm almost certain that except for the publicity that is being generated, it's going to be a normal business day for gas stations.
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Old 05-4-2007, 01:51 PM   #27
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I can easily participate. No vehicle. But uh.. is this solely an american thing? I mean, gas prices are terrible in Canada as well - probably worse than america.
Not worse. Gas is almost $1.20 here and that's ~$3.75? a gallon. America has always had better gas prices. In fact, it is cheaper to drive 40km to the US and fill up there, literally.
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Old 05-4-2007, 02:22 PM   #28
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Old 05-4-2007, 02:24 PM   #29
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Default Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

If we don't pump for one day, that puts the gas company down X number of dollars. This causes them to raise the prices so they can make this X amount of money back.
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Old 05-4-2007, 02:25 PM   #30
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I have no car, no money... no problem. I've been helping this cause ever since I got into college
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Old 05-4-2007, 02:30 PM   #31
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Old 05-4-2007, 02:53 PM   #32
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Default Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

What stretchy is saying is that minimizing how much you buy (use) instead of changing when you buy it is what makes the difference. Either way, gas companies sell the gas if you use gas normally and unrestricted.
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Old 05-4-2007, 03:00 PM   #33
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Default Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

I'm 16, have the opportunity to get a car. I have a job and I have money, but I really don't want to because of the bull costs that are involved in all of it, beyond even gas prices. I don't feel like pumping out hundreds a month into gas and insurance just so I can get places faster. I have friends to drive me places if I need to lol. Other then that, I have my trusty diamondback
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Old 05-4-2007, 03:03 PM   #34
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Old 05-4-2007, 03:05 PM   #35
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remind me to fill up my car on the 15th =P

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That did make me laugh. A valid representation of my mindset with this ...

The irony is, I am not one to generally bicker with anything pertaining to economics. Truthfully, from a social standpoint, most would called me VERY conservative. Having lived in Europe, I came back knowing free markets OWN, and that socialism is going down in the same fashion communism did in Eastern Europe and Russia.

The point on this little thing was to simply state, that I can and am willing to avoid putting gas in my car for 1 day. I am such a rebel .. DAMN the torpedoes! It is soooo difficult to do this.

OR, I could go troll the forums, ask why why why, spend more effort countering and arguing it into the ground and demand justifications for something that takes literally no time at all to NOT do.

I'm done
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Old 05-4-2007, 03:21 PM   #37
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This has been going around myspace for a few days now. There's a lot of people in my area supporting this as well.
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Just forwarded your post to everyone on my email contact list. I might just print that message out and post it around town.


EDIT: I won't have college after next week so I'm good.

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If we don't pump for one day, that puts the gas company down X number of dollars. This causes them to raise the prices so they can make this X amount of money back.
So when do you think was the last time oil companies were DOWN money?

Think about 10 years ago.

Gas was like 49 - 55 cents a litre here (Yeah, I'm Canadian). People THEN thought gas was too expensive. Gas and oil companies THEN weren't complaining about money or whatever, in fact, they were probably living just as luxuriously as they are now, (well considering the times.)

So yeah, there's NO possible way the gas/oil companies are down ANY amount of money. The only thing that'll happen is that their profits won't be as high for one day... I'm sure they're going to really be hurting...
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Not worse. Gas is almost $1.20 here and that's ~$3.75? a gallon. America has always had better gas prices. In fact, it is cheaper to drive 40km to the US and fill up there, literally.
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