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Old 04-22-2007, 05:41 PM   #81
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Right...you're clever, you can edit the page. Now the change has been logged, and one of the site mods will see the change, correct it, and probably ban you.

The best part is, I can even go into the history of the page and see exactly when and what you changed, which allows me (awesome isn't it!) to go into the history of -any- page, and see, for example, that many people had your bright idea, and had their vandalism repaired in -one day- and that the previous (and original version) has remained for months and months and months.

Further, being responsable posters that they are, they original work is referenced and footnoted so you can go look it up yourself in an actual book! Isn't that wonderful?

You quoted us websites (changable easily) and linked us to a video (easily faked) and you think we should take you seriously?
yea i know its awesome. the whole point of wikipedia is for everyone to give knowledge. all im tryin to prove is that many sites can easily be faked. I bet if i went ot a random site and typed something intellegent in, people would think its was the truth

no, of course you shouldnt take me serious...have i been sounding serious? lol


better answer to original question: I think the human mind very powerful and we as the human race have yet to fully understand the abilities that we may all have

hows that? is that a little better of an answer?
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:45 PM   #82
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better answer to original question: I think the human mind very powerful and we as the human race have yet to fully understand the abilities that we may all have

hows that? is that a little better of an answer?
Well, on the plus side, it isn't full of claims with no evidence or support, but on the downside...it isn't really doing much else beyond being very vague and non-commital.

Opinions with supporting evidence > No opinion at all > Opinions with no evidence or support
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:48 PM   #83
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Default Re: How powerful is the human mind?

My mind might be pretty powerful, but I tend to sit around and play ffr, wow, ect.

If someone can teach me how to pick up drinks or whatnot with my mind plz tell, ive been trying
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:09 PM   #84
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My mind might be pretty powerful, but I tend to sit around and play ffr, wow, ect.

If someone can teach me how to pick up drinks or whatnot with my mind plz tell, ive been trying
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:18 PM   #85
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no, of course you shouldnt take me serious...have i been sounding serious? lol
Then no offense, get out of critical thinking if you're not being serious.

Yes the mind is powerful, and we don't fully understand how it works. Then again, that doesn't mean that we have mental power that defies our current knowledge of physics. If it can ever be proven than our world will drastically change, but until then I, as well as most other people, have to be skeptical and disregard the concept.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:58 PM   #86
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Default Re: How powerful is the human mind?

I think in a universal sense, our minds are relatively weak, we can't even comprehend the universe we live in.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:42 AM   #87
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I read a book recently on how humans do have a 6th sense. The proximity sense. You know the feeling when someone is looking at you when your back is turned, then you turn around and of course they are? This is your proximity sense in action. A man was in a concrete room with no windows and one large cement door. The room was sound proof but he said he could tell when someone was outside it. He could also tell when someone was thinking about him too. Pretty hard to comprehend but almost everyone has experienced it.

Another example of just how awesome the brain is, is how capable humans are of understanding: it is said that if a person having never heard the language can figure out the rough meaning of it and the basic structure of the sentences. A man was asked to sit in a room and listen to a 3 minute long tape for 10 hours. The tape was in Thai and the man only spoke english and a bit of spanish. After he was asked what he thought they were saying on the tape and he told them all about the little boy being described on the tape.

Pretty interesting.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:04 AM   #88
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The brain is so powerful and amazing but with oh so many flaws
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:01 AM   #89
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I read a book recently on how humans do have a 6th sense. The proximity sense. You know the feeling when someone is looking at you when your back is turned, then you turn around and of course they are? This is your proximity sense in action. A man was in a concrete room with no windows and one large cement door. The room was sound proof but he said he could tell when someone was outside it. He could also tell when someone was thinking about him too. Pretty hard to comprehend but almost everyone has experienced it.



Pretty interesting.
6th sense? These are just sales gimmicks, much like the pseudopsychology you'll find in most self help books that is true to an extent but conveniently modified to seem truer than it really is XD Yes, the mind is highly tuned to pick up little changes in sensory information. This is evolutionary and as you can imagine pretty necessary if we were to survive back when we didn't have guns to shoot things with.


I know it's easy to talk about how awesome the human brain is, but what about how lousy it is if you look at it from another perspective (a universal one). Again, sure compared to other animals we're smart but the brain has viritually no brute force processing ability. Simple computers can blow us out of the water here. We forget things constantly. It takes us years on end to learn the material necessary to function properly in our world, and then in a few years we forget all of it. We make mistakes all the time. Hell, we can't even seem to stay in our lane, and we're one of the only animals that kills its own. We fight with eachother for no reason at all really, and like to think that we're special and almighty beings in this universe. Basically, we're little incapable beings mentally that were just clever enough to build machines and computers to do pretty much all of the things we're incapable of doing with our minds.

So from the other perspective, the mind isn't so hot or powerful. Pretty feeble if you ask me. Less than a century of nanotechnology has almost surpassed a billion years of evolution. Surely, whether or not the human mind is powerful depends highly on what context you're looking at it in XD
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So from the other perspective, the mind isn't so hot or powerful. Pretty feeble if you ask me. Less than a century of nanotechnology has almost surpassed a billion years of evolution.
Out of curiosity...just what species' mind came up with nanotechnology? They must have been pretty smart.


Edit: And as for that 6th sense, there is actually a good argument for it. It reads input based on orientation. Even if you are blind, deaf, dumb etc you can tell (as an example) if you are upside down, or if someone is very close to you. I generally argue against this being something that counts as a full-on sense, but it's worth at least considering rather than dismissing outright.

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Old 04-24-2007, 04:54 PM   #91
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Well, being able to tell when you're upside down is just your "sense" of balance, which is controlled by your inner ear. So I guess it's an extension of your sense of hearing. I suppose you could also say part of it is from your sense of touch (you can feel the blood rushing to your head, etc.).

What Reach is saying is that yes, we can detect things like where a person is relative to us, but we do it all with our 5 natural senses.

The sense of hearing can be very powerful if honed, but as humans we tend to largely ignore its capabilities. You think of it mainly for being useful only for hearing what people say or the sound effects of the world, but you also use it as a sort of radar. The way you can tell where a sound is coming from is from the sound waves reaching your ears at slightly different times, and if necessary, this skill can be used to tell where other people, objects, etc. are located.

I'm sure everyone's heard this before, but when a person goes completely blind, they start to hone their other senses to a much greater extent. We humans rely on our sense of sight so much that we ignore a lot of less clear sensory input, but without it, we'd be forced to pay attention to that stuff. Blind people often learn to use their sense of hearing to get a sense of a room and where people are, much like animals that have poor vision.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that there is a lot of sensory information feeding into our brains from our five senses, and we only consciously pay attention to the most obvious ones. It's not too surprising that we would share another "sense" from conclusions drawn from the rest of the input subconsciously.
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:58 AM   #92
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Doesn't it all depend?
How our minds think, how were brought up, genetics, our interest all depends on out limit of wanting to know far beyond the normal...
I have a saying, words should be powerful if you mean then you say it
I you think a person can achieve that far they can if they wanted to.
(mind the fact that I might make nonsense at all.)
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does anyone truly know what make the mind tick( i do) u dont have to think that hard about it.
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why did you bump the almost 4 month old thread?
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The mind is incredibly powerful, though the extent of that power is exemplified more in unconscious actions.

I do believe that one's own will (or lack thereof) can be a significant factor in things the body does, but the very lengths to which it goes to protect itself are quite profound.

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6th sense thing: Actually, I've heard some pretty rigorous testing being done about this. There was a show on CBC Ideas last summer about it, and I glanced at the book in Chapters this guy being interviewed wrote, because it seemed ridiculous. The main experiment described was that a person had their back turned, and then an experimenter behind them either looked or didn't look at them, and then the person was forced to respond whether the experimenter was looking at them or not. Apparently, in these studies, the person got it right appox. 60% of the time, signficantly higher than 50% probability, probably at p< 0.05. I still think that there's probably something screwy with the experiment, or that it was a type II error, or, could be that the trials were only pseudorandomized, not fully randomized, and any task, given enough trials, will end up being more than chance level with pseudorandomization. That's just an idea of mine about pseudorandomization though; I'd love to test that at some point.
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I kind of have to agree with Meghan here about the 6th sense. Ive taken the art of Tai Chi for about 5 years (yeah, I know that's pretty short) and from what Ive seen of my teacher and senior students, that art seems made for honing the 6th sense.

I belive the human body itself to be the most powerful thing in existence, but that's my personal opinion.
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I really do believe that the human mind has boundries but we have not yet reached the point of finding them. A good example of this is hellstromism. If one human can see into the another persons mind just by using senses, then truly we are yet to discover how far the mind can go.
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Look up Derren Brown on Youtube and watch several of his videos (particularly the one where he uses NLP). Even though his patients, or "victims", are seemingly gullible, I feel he is an intelligent man according to his techniques in persuasion and tricking the human brain. Give some output on what you guys think of that.
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I really do believe that the human mind has boundries but we have not yet reached the point of finding them. A good example of this is hellstromism. If one human can see into the another persons mind just by using senses, then truly we are yet to discover how far the mind can go.
I guess that's my veiwpoint summed up
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