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Old 04-8-2007, 06:43 PM   #11
OmegaSyrus
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Default Re: Evolution & Darwin Vs. Creation

<This is W_I_N_N_E_R, i dont like the W_I_N_N_E_R name because it seems pompous and arrogant to me. I apologize for it, i thought it up years ago in starcraft because i was out of ideas :P >

Now, quoting is alright, and a great argumentative mechanism. Kilroys last post did it pulchritudinously, but, his prior method was annoying because he would address single sentences often with rhetorical questions or snyde remarks. Anyway, its a creationist method ive seen quite often, and only creationists or religious apologists have used that method that ive seen.

I do notice a change in your response method kilroy, and i appreciate is more than you know, thank you .

Anywho, Kilroy, perhaps they disagree with a "lower class" (assuming you can call someone as such...) because they perceive that the lower class does actions and methods that cause self-destruction (theft, pride, mental instability, lying, etc.). Because these lifestyles are a danger unto themselves, one could look at those methods as undesirable (for example, there are many stories dating back to greek times and earlier where undesirable actions such as usurping and rape are made out to be evil, creating a societal maxim).

Also, alot of people dont like to think this but humans are often disposition'd to different things in life. Such as some people are born disposition'd to alcohol. But since those people often die early or have difficulty getting offspring, their alcoholism has difficulty becoming mainstream. I use this example to show that bad actions beget bad actions, good actions beget good actions, but bad is related to some sort of destruction, and good is related to beneficial outcomes and rewards. Therefore, bad begets bad, but often doesnt survive, and good begets good, and often survives. This explains crudely how natural selection even in humans can cause "goodness" as a common practice.

here's an example of kilroys earlier "creationist" responses:

>>"Society likely rejects behaviors of any sort when they manifest predominately in lower classes for the precise reason that they manifest predominately in lower classes."

You are assuming that quantity = quality. What most people believe doesn't make the majority correct (crusades?).

^i dont like this method because its too short and ruins other peoples arguments, such as kilroy had much more meaning in his argument, and i butchered it. Go read his post if u require his view, or make sure u quote entire arguments, dont destroy someones points.

**EDIT**
Slipstrike, avoid AD HOMINEMS, insulting Kilroys character is not a good tactic for debating. I dont think he was trying to be superior, there are probably other reasons. Like i say, religious people/creationists follow the same patterns, i notice this, im not saying they do it for any specific reason, i just notice a trend... sorry if it offends

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