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Old 03-15-2007, 05:39 PM   #1
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What do you guys make of this?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/can.htm

Think it's just a trick of the camera?
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Old 03-16-2007, 04:45 PM   #2
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DUNE!

Anyways, this looks interesting. One day we'll go there and see for ourselves.
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Old 03-16-2007, 04:53 PM   #3
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DUNE!

Anyways, this looks interesting. One day we'll go there and see for ourselves.
I don't quite agree with it being glass or whatever, but it doesn't look like something that would naturally occur.
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:02 PM   #4
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I'm going to have to go with the "DUNE!" comment. I'm sure I recall an image like this a good few years ago, and thought "Martian worms!". It still strikes me as being that. The immediate answer to "What would it eat?" would be "Whatever it wants! It's fricking huge!"

As for the "glass" thing, I don't quite follow where that came from. I can only assume it's because it's supposed to be a see-through tube.

That's my guess. Not a great one, but I know rather little in the disciplines of Geology and Biology.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:19 PM   #5
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DUNE!

Anyways, this looks interesting. One day we'll go there and see for ourselves.
Kinda odd, that was the exact same thing that came to my mind.


Except the part about us going there one day. I highly doubt you or I will go there in our lifetime.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:49 PM   #6
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I think Maid meant we as in the human race.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:56 PM   #7
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I know, just being a smart-arse.
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:20 PM   #8
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Dosent look natural to me.
Ice perhaps?
They say its possible, especially on the polar caps and under the planet surface.
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:28 PM   #9
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Doesn't look like glass tubes to me. That seems like a hopeful interpretation.

Looks more like a sand dune funneled into a canyon.
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:33 PM   #10
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Am I the only one who thinks the images are fake? This doesnt look like a website I can trust.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:02 PM   #11
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Am I the only one who thinks the images are fake? This doesnt look like a website I can trust.
The images could be real, but I bet its nothing more than some land formation. I think we want to find something so bad on Mars whenever we see something strange we jump to conclusions. I'd like to think of life on Mars but I just don't see us finding proof at least anytime soon or if the proof even exists.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:44 PM   #12
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idk, the website resembles that of one of those sites that are run by a nerd in his mothers basement talking about how the govt implanted chips in our brains at birth and they are tracking us as we speak... i agree with arelik... FAKE
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:33 PM   #13
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The site that was linked is from a guy named Richard Hoagland. He really is way out there, besides the hairbrained idea he obviously supports, though he himself didn't write it, he also believes that the US has placed tanks on Mars, Believes the Egyptians created hyroglyphics in the image of modern day warfare machinery; ei helicopters, tanks, etc., as well as other really bizarre comments/beliefs.

His atricles have been debunked many times including this one. The "Tunnel" is nothing more then an optical illusion and that it is infact a valley with, as others has stated dunes of sand. The shiney, glass like surface has been explained as a result of how digital imaging coloration works. As well as the wind not being able to produce this effect idea being shown as completely false with examples coming from other areas of Mars as well as being recreated on Earth; think of a beach and the rippling effect that can occur in the sand, just as one example.

I personally think people should read everything his site has to offer. But seriously use it for what it is, a good laugh.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:43 PM   #14
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The site that was linked is from a guy named Richard Hoagland. He really is way out there, besides the hairbrained idea he obviously supports, though he himself didn't write it, he also believes that the US has placed tanks on Mars, Believes the Egyptians created hyroglyphics in the image of modern day warfare machinery; ei helicopters, tanks, etc., as well as other really bizarre comments/beliefs.

His atricles have been debunked many times including this one. The "Tunnel" is nothing more then an optical illusion and that it is infact a valley with, as others has stated dunes of sand. The shiney, glass like surface has been explained as a result of how digital imaging coloration works. As well as the wind not being able to produce this effect idea being shown as completely false with examples coming from other areas of Mars as well as being recreated on Earth; think of a beach and the rippling effect that can occur in the sand, just as one example.

I personally think people should read everything his site has to offer. But seriously use it for what it is, a good laugh.

HAHA!!! see nerd in moms basement... i knew it had to be complete bull... i mean, all these years of different expeditions and telescopic scans and we COMPLETELY miss a mile-long tube/tunnel/whatever??? yea freakin RIGHT... all it is is 1 part bull, mixed well with 2 parts propaganda, serve chilled on the rocks and serve to the public as new evidence... BULL BULL BULL
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:44 PM   #15
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Don't worry mang, it's just the internet.

In regards to the tubes.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:50 PM   #16
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rofl... idk... i just kinda hate these sites that try to falsify crap to get ppl to think... i mean, its a nice pic, an interesting land mass, but to come along and say its tubing just so that we can debate over it (much like were doing now) is pretty lame
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:03 PM   #17
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they did have heiroglyphics of helicopters and planes There are some very strange hieroglyphics in the Temple of Osiris at Abydos. According to many UFO enthusiasts and Atlantis proponents, these glyphs depict highly developed crafts, specifically a helicopter, a submarine, some form of flying saucer, and a jet plane. What are these inscriptions all about? If the ancient Egyptians had vehicles such as helicopters, submarines, and jet airplanes, one would expect to find some evidence of this other than in a single inscription on the lintel of a single temple. This type of large machinery requires a vast amount of support (including fuel, parts, factories, etc.) but there is no trace of any such support in all of Egypt. The Egyptian literature is also bereft of any boast, much less passing mention, of advanced aircraft. Obviously this situation doesn't seem peculiar to those who really want to believe that the ancient Egyptians flew around in airplanes. link( http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html) hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....owned
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:43 PM   #18
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I like that link Skyrunner. The best part is the image titled "Glyphs superimposed". It shows that the whole "Abydos Helicopter" myth is nothing more then a palimpsest. Funny how people really wants to think that there is/was something else out there that can/has rivaled our current technology, even surpassing what we have today, reguardless of a very rational, obvious explaination. I guess in a way, jumping to extreme conclussions in matters like this, makes the universe a smaller, less lonely place.
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:55 PM   #19
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well then how do u explain a helicopter like image on a temple that hadent been touched for thousands of years until it was discovered ? dosent matter if it is a palimpsest it was still written on there by egyptians
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:13 PM   #20
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Skyrunner, did you even read anything from the link that you posted? Seriously, that link is saying that the "Abydos Helicopter" is not a "Helicopter" at all, it is nothing more then a palimpsest (Palimpsest: a parchment or the like from which writing has been partially or completely erased to make room for another text.)

You do realize that this was practiced every often in Egypt, escpecially concerning writings from Seti I's reign as Pharoah. Ironically, your link states this very thing:

The text is part of the titulary of Ramesses II and can be translated as "The one of the Two Ladies, who suppresses the nine foreign countries." This replaces the royal titulary of Seti I that was originally carved into the stone. More technically, the actual "helicopter" seems to be a portion of the psd.t sign and the X3s.t sign on top of each other, with portions missing. An apparent change in scale also mucks things up.

I will ask you to logically answer the two questions that were asked in the quote you provided.

1: Why was there no evidence found to support a helicopter that this one single image dipicts; ie, fuel, parts, factory, anything to support the production of such an aircraft.

2: With such a major accomplishment such as a fly machine, why is Eygptian literature bereft, or void of any "other" mentioning of it. I would suspect that something of this magnitude would have more then one "image" tied to it.
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