TWG XLI: Postgame

[iggymatrixcounter]

Yeah, hitting red seer targets every day really hard to win against. Guess no one suspected jurs to do so much damage.

[nforcer06164]

The damage was almost as great to the humans. Remember, she hit both millers consecutively.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

The damage was almost as great to the humans. Remember, she hit both millers consecutively.

Yea but you got to live!!! The only real damage to the humans was the omega/nforcer lynch between two humans. Other than that, you found a way to escape every day.

[talisman]

well, from the night posting I knew afro, omega, nforcer, and iggy were all human. But I didn't have anything to go on wolfwise.

eh, I knew I would die night one too. This game lacked some serious guardianage.

[Afrobean]

gj of winning while I was banned I would have loved to have been there for it

Anyway, I'm glad to have done my part for the win. By the way, did my subtle plan to make me look like I might be a seer work? Or was I just wolfed because everyone turned around and went "uh no afro is human lol"?

[FoJaR]

if i were on the wolf team, i would have advocated everyone faking seer. complete chaos.

[blahblah18]

hard to fake seer when your wolf seer is dead... brutal to go to a seer and be like sup i'm the seer... i initially wanted nforcer seered cuz i knew he'd believe me when i said i was the seer to him.. but then he became too active and i knew he'd be seered by the real seer too quickly and the 1:1 wouldn't have been worth the excahnge in time.. so I was gonna pick an unknown night 2 and tell him i had an alliance started, but the way that crap went down i was almsot positive the seers were coming from their based on the picks of real seerings so i didn't want to stab in the dark. I stand by that logic

[Afrobean]

Why do people keep saying you need a wolf seer to fake seer?

The only problem would be if someone was seer'd as "not human" by the real seer and the fake seer had already came to them saying that they've been seer'd green.

Or maybe if you came to one of the real seers and the decided to seer you instead of just trusting you.

Either way, the risk of those happening are low and are actually not affected by the wolf being the wolf seer or not.

[MilfeulleSakuraba]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

if i were on the wolf team, i would have advocated everyone faking seer. complete chaos.

The problem with that is that the initial population isn't small enough for a hard target sweep to not win the game 100% of the time. Even assuming both vigi kills are used on the first day and no regular kill ever hits a kamikaze, the Day 1 numbers are 2 seers, 4 wolves and 7 other people.

It would be pretty funny though. Perhaps we need this game replayed with only 12 people starting and no kamikazes or vigi kills?

[JurseyRider734]

I was surprised most of the people I was allied with didn't trust me. Oh well, at least I didn't get lynched. Would have been 10x better if there was cardflipping so it would prove that I wasn't bs'ing...but you would have had to take the kamikazes out or something and leave one wolf vigi. Something like that. It was just luck that I saw three reds in a row. The first night I was talking to Wilkin on AIM and I thought it would just probably be helpful see him (thinking he'd be human) so that I wouldn't have to worry about not trusting him and all...he ended up showing up red. He started to tell me how he was a wolf and all (playing it off as a joke), but he was unaware I had seen him. heh. I saw nforcer because I wanted to see a human I could trust and one to go out to FoJar. Unfortunately, I couldn't trust him, because he came up red. I then saw Omega because I thought he was acting rather oddly, and I was shocked reading that he wasn't a red. I thought the odds were too low for nforcer and Omega to both be millers.

brb school

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Originally Posted by blahblah18

hard to fake seer when your wolf seer is dead...

Not required at all.

The powers a wolf seer has does not help in any way the faking of seer.

[talisman]

blah is saying that without the wolf seer, they don't know who's blue, aka who NOT to come out to. You don't want to fake seer to a real seer who can actually check.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

I saw nforcer because I wanted to see a human I could trust and one to go out to FoJar.

Should have stuck with your gut feelings. I cannot tell you how mad I was getting at everyone wanting nforcer dead over wilkin. If fojar was around when it all went down maybe I would have been able to live.

I kind of find it ironic that I was a blue miller and nforcer was a red miller... we were arguing enough on the thread to actually be on opposing teams.

AND if nforcer wasn't a red miller, it would have been REALLY ironic that the two biggest posters, who are fighting at the mouth, both get seered and represent their respective seer. (Stoic seered me night1) That would have been an awkward revelation imo.

@nforcer: btw, if we had gone with your plan day1, I would have been the one to come out and just get owned because there wouldn't be another seer pawn from the other seer. It's not that your plan was flawed, I was just not willing to take one for the team for the low chance of setting up an alliance. (Getting a wolf yes, but not setting us up strategically.)

[nforcer06164]

I understand that. The fact that Eva just came out to FoJaR without seering him is a bit unsettling now though, no?

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by talisman

blah is saying that without the wolf seer, they don't know who's blue, aka who NOT to come out to. You don't want to fake seer to a real seer who can actually check.

Course you also have to think that the wolves aren't going to use their own kind in the alliance until later in the game, so if it all blew up in his face, the alliance(s) would have a few more greens they could trust over unknowns (but not 100%).

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by nforcer06164

I understand that. The fact that Eva just came out to FoJaR without seering him is a bit unsettling now though, no?

Perhaps, but under normal circumstances Fojar should have died along with me, which would have been me if I was more of a team player. I think that was complete garbage that fojar got to live longer than me. Even if jurs came to me and the alliance was set up, I wasn't willing to put my life down for that.

If you haven't noticed, I'm 100% against being wolfed XD.

[FoJaR]

shoot, if i could have died instead of you i would have.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

shoot, if i could have died instead of you i would have.

Yea but you're so inactive that that wasn't a possiblity.

[JurseyRider734]

I came out to Fojar without seeing him because I had seen two reds already and I needed to relay the info I had incase I got lynched or wolf. I had to make sure that I'd be able to stay alive. I wouldn't have gone to Fojar if I didn't trust him enough, don't worry.

[nforcer06164]

On a totally unrelated note... Eva, your avatar is really starting to creep me out.