"god" & "Aliens" one and the same?

[Tisthammerw]

Originally Posted by Dragula219

That is a weak argument in my opinion.

You're saying that because a person can't walk to a point infinitely far away that the universe cannot be infinite?

No, I was instantiating an example of an impossible traversal. Traversing an infinite region is not possible.

That doesn't make any sense, you are comparing two completely unrelated things.

Not at all. Remember Joe Walker is traversing at a finite rate. If he reaches "infinity" he will also have traversed an infinite region of time.

Perhaps I should have used the Count Int example.

Suppose Count Int starts with 1 and successively adds one every second. 1, 2, 3, 4… and so on. Will he ever reach a point in time where he can honestly say, “I’m done. I’ve reached infinity”? No, the number will just get progressively larger and larger without limit. He can never reach infinity through this successive addition any more than you can reach the greatest possible number. There will always be a bigger yet finite number in the next second. Because we’re using numbers, this example can be instantiated to reality whether it be distance (1 meter, 2 meters, 3…) time (1 year, 2 years, 3…) or whatever. An actual infinite cannot be traversed via successive finite-sized steps.

A similar thing holds true for Joe Walker. Can he traverse the infinite distance to reach the point? No he cannot. The infinite traversal is not possible.

Just because someone cannot comprehend something does not even make it improbable, much less impossible.

What gave you the impression that my conclusion was based on lack of comprehension? (I would really like to know.) My conclusion was not based on incomprehension but on ontological impossibility. It isn't that Joe Walker can't traverse the infinite region because I can't comprehend it, it's because the traversal is impossible, plain and simple. Do you honestly believe that it is possible for Joe Walker to traverse the infinite distance? Do you honestly believe it is possible for Count Int to reach infinity? If you think the answer is "yes" please stop to think for a moment. What number can the Count add 1 to in order to get infinity?