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Old 01-11-2007, 11:51 AM   #41
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My chemistry teacher was telling us about atoms and how the orbitals change when they gain energy go through an unknown demension to get there. Probably not related to time but w/e.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:00 PM   #42
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Not related to time whatsoever.

You guys are saying that in order to turn back time you have to make everything as it was in the time you are trying to go back to. If time is a constant, wouldnt the position of things be irrevelant? The objects would be where they were, but time (which is always moving) would still be going on.

For instance, if everything in the entire universe went to where it was five minutes ago, "time" would still be "now", only we would be where we were. That doesn't mean we went back in time, we just moved backwards.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:26 PM   #43
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Not related to time whatsoever.

You guys are saying that in order to turn back time you have to make everything as it was in the time you are trying to go back to. If time is a constant, wouldnt the position of things be irrevelant? The objects would be where they were, but time (which is always moving) would still be going on.

For instance, if everything in the entire universe went to where it was five minutes ago, "time" would still be "now", only we would be where we were. That doesn't mean we went back in time, we just moved backwards.
That's what I said, at best Time repeated itself

But I think Reach and EagleBoy have advanced the thread beyond that thoery. Im speechless...
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:38 PM   #44
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People aren't saying that moving everything back to how it was is going back in time, it would simulate it though.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:40 AM   #45
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Well whats the fun with simulation?

I was thinking at work yesterday and i came up with the analogy of moving things backwards against time as a constant.

Say time is a river. And everything else in the river is the universe. If we put things back where they were upstream, the river still flows right?
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:48 PM   #46
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Time isn't constant though is it? Time is dependent upon motion rite?
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:53 PM   #47
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I can't see why you are unable to travel faster than light? I mean... if light travels "off time" why wouldn't we be able to? If time is what some people say, then why would light particles break the laws of physics? :O If something can break the laws of physics, then I'm sure there are more ways they can be broken.

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Old 01-12-2007, 05:12 PM   #48
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Light particles don't have mass.

Instantaneous information transfer is quite possible, but to accelerate massive particles to the speed of light requires an infinite amount of energy. As such, it's impossible.

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Old 01-12-2007, 05:39 PM   #49
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A clock that can turn back time? Reminds me of that twilight zone episodes were the guy has a clock that stops time. I wouldn't probably use it because what if it breaks when you use it. You could be stuck in some distant time period. I wouldn't want to take that risk.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:45 PM   #50
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I can't see why you are unable to travel faster than light? I mean... if light travels "off time" why wouldn't we be able to? If time is what some people say, then why would light particles break the laws of physics? :O If something can break the laws of physics, then I'm sure there are more ways they can be broken.

*need to watch The Matrix again*

To add to what was already said; it is possible to get from destination A -> B faster than the speed of light. This has been proven. However, it involves some rather complex quantum entanglement trickery. The particles still arn't actually 'moving' faster than the speed of light, because they cannot do so. They just get from one place to another faster because of the entanglement.

You can also accelerate photons so they surpass c. Experiments have been done to show you can, with relative ease, make photons go about 300x c from A to B. Even so, the photons still are not breaking c. They used cesium gas to distort the state of the photons, allowing them to reach B faster than would happen normally (actually, what appeared to have happened was the photons reached B before leaving A, though this is trickery).


If you are into wormholes and such, these might be valid ways of abusing the A -> B principle. You still can't travel faster than c, but if we can use these spacetime distortions to move large objects much like we can atoms we could get from one place to another faster than c.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:57 PM   #51
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Wow... I never thought of it that way. I would always think that if you turned back time you would still remeber everything. But come to think of it, you wouldn't have experienced your future events anymore. Creepy, but I don't believe in magic so It doesn't really matter.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:06 PM   #52
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Steven Hawkins was talking about this on the discovery channel last week. He was talking about dimensions and how time is the fourth one. They were saying that it would be faster to get from point a to point b by bending the fourth dimension. Like drawing two dots on a piece of paper and folding it in half, and that time travel could be possible this way too.

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Old 01-12-2007, 11:34 PM   #53
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I don't see any correlation between travelling faster than the speed of light and time travel.

I keep hearing about it so I'm assuming there's a connection. I just don't understand it at all.
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:11 AM   #54
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I don't see any correlation between travelling faster than the speed of light and time travel.

I keep hearing about it so I'm assuming there's a connection. I just don't understand it at all.

It comes from the belief that traveling faster than c would result in a reverse flow of time. However, since it cannot be done it seems like a rather pointless idea. It is like saying since the singularity of a black hole has no size, if you were to pass through it you might rip through space and end up in some other universe.

Yes, you might...but it is impossible to do such a thing, so it is irrelevant XD
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First law of thermodynamics, gg theory of time travel.

In theory, it could be simulated, esp. and pretty much only time travel forward into the future, such as in Futurama.

Time travel to the past is bull**** due to the limitless paradoxes that open up due to time travel, unless it were simulated, but that would require the power of the cosmos or something.

Also, good proof time travel into the past will never be perfected even if it wasn't bull****: I have yet to see a man from the future in the flesh.
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By the way, they have shot particles to the speed of light. There are scientists who work with the antimatter theory and they have the 2 mile long vaccum that they shoot one particle through at the speed of light, crash it into some form of matter and for a split nanosecond it transforms into anti-matter. That is how they have been studying it. Anything bigger than particles would be impossible to travel at the speed of light. Radiation is the ONLY thing in the universe able to travel that fast, because it has no mass.
Yes, i have always wondered if gamma radiation travels faster than the speed of light although i dont think it does. I also heard that if it was ever possible to go faster than the speed of light then you would create a black hole kind of like how when you go faster than the speed of sound a sonic boom is created. Dunno if there is any truth in that especially since its very improbable in the first place.
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First law of thermodynamics, gg theory of time travel.
Praytell, how does the First Law disprove any theory of time travel?

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