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So, a Texas lawmaker is trying to get it legal for blind people to hunt. The stipulations? They have to be accompanied by a sighted person, and that person must be the one to aim the gun; the blind person can only hold and shoot the gun.
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I'm holding the assumption that, when given a gun, blind people don't turn into blithering idiots with no capacity for reason. That is, they aren't going to irresponsibly be shooting in random directions without the guidance of a sighted person; they will be acting in accordance with the law. Also, people who don't see the necessity for such a law: don't even start. It isn't germane here, and there is PLENTY of reason for it to exist. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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Whose fault is it if the blind man shoots someone?
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Clearly the sighted man's, since he aimed the gun at another person. But do you honestly think that would happen among hunters?
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Now, as for the whole letting blind people hunt thing, it seems kind of pointless. One of the joys of hunting is being able to take you kill, mount it, and admire it. Being unable to look at it, the blind person has no need to shoot it. Then again at the same time, others could enjoy it, but as said before, whats the point in killing an animal for sport if you cant see it? I know someone is gonna come back and say "You can eat the animal, use its fur, etc." Just leave that out of it and think of the whole asthetic aspect of the whole thing.
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Frankly, I don't see why blind people would want to hunt anyway. It's like being blind and wanting to be an art critic except this is barely possible.
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What's bad about letting blind people hunt?
They might kill something. OH WAIT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING FOR LOL
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what's the fun in just pulling the trigger...
I'd rather figure out how to play FFR blind... BBR
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Blindman: Yes, sir, I did believe I was aimed at a target, as I was told. Judge: Guilty of murder. Yeah, I'm sure a blind man is going to be convicted of something over which he has little to no control while the man responsible for pointing the gun at someone and telling the other to shoot goes free. Quote:
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I took special interest in this thread because of my ME senior design projects. Every year, the disabled community comes to SMU to present us with possible projects. They are all requests that come straight from people with disabilities, issues that people really want addressed. One young guy came here and explained to us his organization: Turning Point. All they do is find ways to make outdoor activities available to people with disabilities, namely paraplegics. You may think "well, the last think that I would want to do if I couldn't use my legs is go do lake activities," but plenty of people out there do. My friends are designing a system to adapt and stabilize a kayak so that paraplegics can use it. At their proposal presentation, they got ripped into by another guy who thought their skills should be going toward more "necessary" things, but was quickly shut up by the Turning Point guy, who had to tell him about the thousands of people who are usually confined indoors who want to get out and at least partake in outdoor activities, at any level. Just getting out and being able to do things that blind people normally aren't able to do is a fantastic thing. On top of that, these people can enjoy hunting, too. Being told "oh, no, you'll only kill someone" is not only insulting, but demeaning. These people constantly live with reminders that they can't enjoy many things that others can, so when we go out of our way to allow them to get out more and engage in completely safe activities, and you say they shouldn't be able to because you don't think you'd want to or you think they'd do something absurdly stupid, that's just plumb ignorant of the feelings of others. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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"Hmmm, I am so happy they are finally allowing me to hunt!!!" (some squirrels make a noise in the bushes) "Oh, is that going to be my first kill?!" (He starts walking towards the noise.) "I think I should take off the safety so I will be able to shoot the gun." (He does. Then while walking over to the noise, there is an unseen tree root that the guy trips over, falls on top of the gun in his hand, which fires and blows his head off.) |
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Well. Putting the possibility of manslaughter out of the way, I see no reason for this to be a problem.
However, there are still a lot of issues. For example, deer hunters sometimes use tree stands to hunt. If the blind person falls, will it be the blind person's fault or the guide's? |
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That's not even an issue related to the bill. Whether or not they should be able to hunt has no bearing on whether or not they fall out of a blind.
They can already be up in a blind, bill or no bill. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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Tell me why blind people want to hunt in the first place, so much that a LAW has to be put up for approval?
I mean, being blind probably isn't the most fun in the world and not being able to do things most people can do probably sucks, but personally I'd feel safer without the gun in the hands of a person who cannot see. |
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if they want to hunt, let them hunt. the sighted partner thing sounds reasonable to me. If they move the weapon after it's been sighted, then that's there fault. Otherwise any harm done is on the fault of the aimer. Pretty straightforward.
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I see no logical reason to oppose this, so long as the presence of the guide is strictly enforced.
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I see no point in this. At all. That is pretty inhumane from my standpoint. I mean, it is part of the thrill of the hunt to see your prize at the end of the kill and to be able to say that you killed it yourself. This is a slap to the face to blind people because they get a "taste" of what hunting is like, except they don't get the whole thrill because it is physically impossible at this point. It is like having a handicapped man picked up and dragged along a track during a race and finishing in first place; even though the handicapped person couldn't use his/her legs, he still had the THRILL of "winning." In a sense. Making a law for or against this is a waste of time in general. There are much more important things in this country to worry about. I'm not saying I don't like blind people and I'm not saying that they don't deserve the privledge to hunt. I just find it pointless and a waste of time on behalf of government to be fretting over a useless law.
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Hunting is a fantastic diversion. I'd be really sad if I never got to do it again, especially if there is a safe and reasonable means of doing it. It's not about what is safer; it's about experiencing something fun that you ordinarily wouldn't get to. Quote:
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I don't see why people are debating what possible motives blind people could have to hunt... that is completely irrelevant. The only thing germane to the argument here is whether or not the hunting itself is safe.
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People who are saying "what's so fun about pulling a trigger and getting a dead thing": You can be condescending about any hobby. Racing? It's just driving in a circle. Drawing? It's just making marks on a page. Soccer? Ooh, let's kick a ball into their net before they can kick a ball into ours!
Guido: I wasn't referring to a blind hunter shooting people beside him, but others around him in general. The court situation would really be a matter of manslaughter and not murder. You simply asked what's bad about letting blind people hunt, so I said what's bad about letting blind people hunt. I would probably side with the blind people, to be honest. I know that if there was any possible way to continue my hobbies after I have been rendered unable to do them, I would take it. ps guido created a topic about hunting and used the words "y'all" and "plumb" in it texanometer just exploded
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And these Blind people will be sane, as said. They will not go psycho on you and shoot around randomly or by mistake. Like anyone while hunting, you don't shoot and reload as fast as possible at random.
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