Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]
My first question here is what is a PoE?
I don't know if I necessarily agree with this. There's no way to know if one of the two wagons is even a wolf, and it forces whoever has this power to follow the majority whenever there's pressure on them, and since they're not scum themselves, it assumes that the other wagon is a wolf, and frankly, I think it overly narrows their personal scope, since they have information no one else has (they know they are actually a PR and therefore look at the game from a different perspective)
I also feel like this puts a lot of strange scrutiny over the person being threathened with a lynch like "wait, they're not budging, maybe they are the PR" making us more likely to derail from a better target. I do see value in it, but frankly they should just play their own game, and to avoid having two potential mislynch, it's probably better for them to claim anyway. In fact, I think the true value of blues here is in staying hidden and alive so that we can eventually have them claim in order to mathematically solve the game.
I dunno if my logic works out, but I think we shouldn't "obviously" agree that this is how it should be. Thoughts?
I don't think it's beneficial for the PR with nighttime kill power to reveal themselves unless it reduces the lynch pool in a drastic way. Feel free to elaborate on this, but I feel like this is a shitty idea, Like you said, it's worth discussing, it's d0 after all and if it can stir some non-shitpost conversation due to the setup, it's alright
You might have also said that specifically to rile people up, and I'm the only player noob enough to be like "well wrestling isn't real by the way" while everyone else understood what you were doing 🙃
This reference will fly over everyone's head but me, even though it's an universal concept, at least in the americas. Tabarnak
I don't really agree with this. People have shitty contributions all the time and I don't think it's necessarily due to how much you engage with others. I don't have the most experience in TWG, but I see a lot of veteran players who engage a lot with the games being frustrated with this as well, so I feel like Haku is making sense here.
I feel the same you do about this. How do you feel in general about letting PRs blend in and follow their own agenda?
Fuckin' A man, congrats! =)
Ily and I agree
I still don't know what PoE is. I could google it cuz it's probably some mafia term, but come on, y'all are smarties and you can tell me plzkthx
That aside, You aren't guaranteed to kill someone on N2 if you did that. If you have information, it means you acted on N1, and you could have a 50% chance to roll 3 or 4. Like Leetic said, you're more than likely to get it twice, and it's not like the devil shot would automatically fuck us up. And again, I think your thinking doesn't cover the benefits of them not saying anything at all, like the value in simply preserving a PR for confirmed towns down the line.
I agree, I obviously don't feel strongly towards revealing anything about the PRs, but I might feel differently after d0. I also don't like overthinking this before a single voting phase has happened, since to me it's always the most telling about alignment, but I'm enjoying the fact that people actually want to discuss the setup, unlike with my TWG with only power roles xD
How true is it that the inactives are wolfier? I've seen this being said a lot, but in my experience, it seems like an unfounded assumption. I'm not saying it never happens, just like it's more like "the team that wins the playoffs is never the one with the best regular season" kind of deal.
Also, is there a perceived strategic value to wolves being more passive, or do people just hate being wolves and that makes them not want to play at all?
It's a limited information game and that's literally how it works. I don't think it's dumb and redundant, in fact, the fact you said this makes me think you're just genuinely engaging. Of course it's like 1/10 important based on vibes or whatever but I think it's interesting that you specifically choose to say it
You're going to have to explain to me how that is alignment indicative and not just the fact that it's really them using their accounts
I don't agree with this actually. I think it's in wolf's best interest to gain sympathy capital asap and appear like they have nothing to hide.
I have more posts to react to probably, took me a while to write this
My first question here is what is a PoE?
I don't know if I necessarily agree with this. There's no way to know if one of the two wagons is even a wolf, and it forces whoever has this power to follow the majority whenever there's pressure on them, and since they're not scum themselves, it assumes that the other wagon is a wolf, and frankly, I think it overly narrows their personal scope, since they have information no one else has (they know they are actually a PR and therefore look at the game from a different perspective)
I also feel like this puts a lot of strange scrutiny over the person being threathened with a lynch like "wait, they're not budging, maybe they are the PR" making us more likely to derail from a better target. I do see value in it, but frankly they should just play their own game, and to avoid having two potential mislynch, it's probably better for them to claim anyway. In fact, I think the true value of blues here is in staying hidden and alive so that we can eventually have them claim in order to mathematically solve the game.
I dunno if my logic works out, but I think we shouldn't "obviously" agree that this is how it should be. Thoughts?
I don't think it's beneficial for the PR with nighttime kill power to reveal themselves unless it reduces the lynch pool in a drastic way. Feel free to elaborate on this, but I feel like this is a shitty idea, Like you said, it's worth discussing, it's d0 after all and if it can stir some non-shitpost conversation due to the setup, it's alright
You might have also said that specifically to rile people up, and I'm the only player noob enough to be like "well wrestling isn't real by the way" while everyone else understood what you were doing 🙃
This reference will fly over everyone's head but me, even though it's an universal concept, at least in the americas. Tabarnak
I don't really agree with this. People have shitty contributions all the time and I don't think it's necessarily due to how much you engage with others. I don't have the most experience in TWG, but I see a lot of veteran players who engage a lot with the games being frustrated with this as well, so I feel like Haku is making sense here.
I feel the same you do about this. How do you feel in general about letting PRs blend in and follow their own agenda?
Fuckin' A man, congrats! =)
Ily and I agree
I still don't know what PoE is. I could google it cuz it's probably some mafia term, but come on, y'all are smarties and you can tell me plzkthx
That aside, You aren't guaranteed to kill someone on N2 if you did that. If you have information, it means you acted on N1, and you could have a 50% chance to roll 3 or 4. Like Leetic said, you're more than likely to get it twice, and it's not like the devil shot would automatically fuck us up. And again, I think your thinking doesn't cover the benefits of them not saying anything at all, like the value in simply preserving a PR for confirmed towns down the line.
I agree, I obviously don't feel strongly towards revealing anything about the PRs, but I might feel differently after d0. I also don't like overthinking this before a single voting phase has happened, since to me it's always the most telling about alignment, but I'm enjoying the fact that people actually want to discuss the setup, unlike with my TWG with only power roles xD
How true is it that the inactives are wolfier? I've seen this being said a lot, but in my experience, it seems like an unfounded assumption. I'm not saying it never happens, just like it's more like "the team that wins the playoffs is never the one with the best regular season" kind of deal.
Also, is there a perceived strategic value to wolves being more passive, or do people just hate being wolves and that makes them not want to play at all?
It's a limited information game and that's literally how it works. I don't think it's dumb and redundant, in fact, the fact you said this makes me think you're just genuinely engaging. Of course it's like 1/10 important based on vibes or whatever but I think it's interesting that you specifically choose to say it
You're going to have to explain to me how that is alignment indicative and not just the fact that it's really them using their accounts
I don't agree with this actually. I think it's in wolf's best interest to gain sympathy capital asap and appear like they have nothing to hide.
I have more posts to react to probably, took me a while to write this
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