TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #601
    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by Haze with a Z
    I said that you being weird about the cop thing was nai. Now you are trying to argue that roundbox is a bad kill with holes in your logic and I can’t see a reason for this besides to argue you didn’t do it.
    Did he argue it was a bad kill? I'm pretty sure he said it was probably the best choice and he hypothetically tried guessing who would consider what a better kill

    It feels like you're skimming through and not fully understanding the context of what you're reading

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    • _Zenith_
      Accuracy Player
      • Mar 2011
      • 4629

      #602
      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by leetic
      Want to name any other beneficial outcomes perchance?
      Kind of a stretch but could attempt to pocket the blue and try getting a good f3 going whether it's getting a town read from the pocket or killing blue and making it chaos again for f3





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      • leetic
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2020
        • 7

        #603
        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        Yes it does...? Why would I think it was interesting if I didn't think it had validity...? It made me think about if you had SK energy or not and yes you do
        People use "interesting" to point at minor inconsistencies or just fluff observations without saying anything of substance. If you actually read Zenith's post, they were more trying to communicate "deepwolf" or "powerwolf" than "SK", which is something very different

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        • mellon_collie
          FFR Player
          • May 2017
          • 156

          #604
          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          He townread her
          he's right so yeah that is a good point that he made ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 7

            #605
            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by _Zenith_
            Kind of a stretch but could attempt to pocket the blue and try getting a good f3 going whether it's getting a town read from the pocket or killing blue and making it chaos again for f3
            Couldn't you pocket anybody though? Why would pocketing them in particular be helpful?

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #606
              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

              I was tempted to ghost a little and try to play Rebirth tonight before bed but fucking clearly if I don't stay super active the thread goes off rails. Leetic shouldn't be in the running at all and I don't really like how noncommittal Raeko is being

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              • mellon_collie
                FFR Player
                • May 2017
                • 156

                #607
                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by leetic
                People use "interesting" to point at minor inconsistencies or just fluff observations without saying anything of substance. If you actually read Zenith's post, they were more trying to communicate "deepwolf" or "powerwolf" than "SK", which is something very different
                This is a semantic argument that I don't think holds any weight. If I point it out in a post, it's for a reason. Whether I use the word "interesting" or something else does not matter

                Zenith said what he said and he specifically said SK

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                • Haze with a Z
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2024
                  • 5

                  #608
                  Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  Did he argue it was a bad kill? I'm pretty sure he said it was probably the best choice and he hypothetically tried guessing who would consider what a better kill

                  It feels like you're skimming through and not fully understanding the context of what you're reading
                  He seemed to confirm it while saying suboptimal kills and even said that if they were gonna kill someone like that they’d kill me

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                  • mellon_collie
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2017
                    • 156

                    #609
                    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    I was tempted to ghost a little and try to play Rebirth tonight before bed but fucking clearly if I don't stay super active the thread goes off rails. Leetic shouldn't be in the running at all and I don't really like how noncommittal Raeko is being
                    So do you think it's Zenith or bust then? or you think me or Haze should be above leetic for some reason?

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #610
                      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                      Reminder that if anyone hammers this phase they need to be lynched no questions in F3

                      You can make definitive stances without actually casting a vote if your target already has 2 votes on them

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                      • _Zenith_
                        Accuracy Player
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4629

                        #611
                        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by leetic
                        Couldn't you pocket anybody though? Why would pocketing them in particular be helpful?
                        You could, but generally people are gonna lock in that blue and follow it (especially if there's no counter, even in this case), pocketing them for the chance of them strong town reading you (best case scenario) would be way better than just pocketing some VT that you may or may not need to BS to get through.

                        Like I said, kind of a stretch, you really said the big one which is to keep alive and get more from it





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                        • leetic
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 7

                          #612
                          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by Haze with a Z
                          I said that you being weird about the cop thing was nai. Now you are trying to argue that roundbox is a bad kill with holes in your logic and I can’t see a reason for this besides to argue you didn’t do it.
                          I haven't argued that it was bad, in fact I see it as the optimal choice from Zenith and Raeko's perspective and not far from the optimal choice from yours, and even MML can take advantage of WIFOM from that kill. It's more that I don't think it was the only option for a wolf to have taken, thus it might not be meaningless to consider other reasons why roundbox was killed other than "they're seer LOL".

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                          • Haze with a Z
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2024
                            • 5

                            #613
                            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                            Idk lar it feels like you are also not reading what leetic’s said and then accusing me of this

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                            • leetic
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 7

                              #614
                              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              This is a semantic argument that I don't think holds any weight. If I point it out in a post, it's for a reason. Whether I use the word "interesting" or something else does not matter

                              Zenith said what he said and he specifically said SK
                              I've played and won as SK and I know it's nothing like what Zenith said it was lol. Also, Zenith clarified their point, might want to take that into account.

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                              • Haze with a Z
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2024
                                • 5

                                #615
                                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by leetic
                                I haven't argued that it was bad, in fact I see it as the optimal choice from Zenith and Raeko's perspective and not far from the optimal choice from yours, and even MML can take advantage of WIFOM from that kill. It's more that I don't think it was the only option for a wolf to have taken, thus it might not be meaningless to consider other reasons why roundbox was killed other than "they're seer LOL".
                                Your logic for other ways appears to have a large chance of it backfiring through which makes it then seem like they’d still be killed even if other options exist

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