TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

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  • Haze with a Z
    Registered User
    • Feb 2024
    • 5

    #526
    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by _Zenith_
    I just stepped back into thread, so sure.

    But also, when did I ever mention Xel being weird? Unless I'm missing something, my only comment about XelNya was that I wanted to see them get violent which is purely off of my meta with playing with them, as Xel embodies chaos and I'm all for it (especially early on in a game with nothing substantial to move towards).
    I used poor wording sorry. All I saw you do today when reading up was seemingly say that you were better than them like they were insulting you right now.

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    • MixMasterLar
      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2006
      • 5401

      #527
      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

      I think Haze being defeated in his vote when Roundbox commented on it is very anti town play

      But I think I've almost always seen that kind of play from a town, if that makes sense

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      • mellon_collie
        FFR Player
        • May 2017
        • 156

        #528
        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

        Originally posted by leetic
        Look, if you thought my push on roundbox was such a bad idea, you had plenty of time during EoD to yell at me about it. You raising such a big stink now feels performative as fuck. To Zenith's credit, they weren't around for that event
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        This post especially is really really bad in hindsight
        I already acknowledged that your posts look worse in hindsight so why would I have yelled at you during EOD. Though honestly yeah I should have because pressuring people to claim like that is just bad and I should have called it out as such

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        • _Zenith_
          Accuracy Player
          • Mar 2011
          • 4629

          #529
          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by Haze with a Z
          Zenith to be clear are you tr/tling people for actually seeming towny to you or cause they aren’t me?
          Lar and Raeko are both town leans

          Leetic is for better or for worse a paranoid read from me

          You are the only one I am red leaning and willing to vote at the moment





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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5401

            #530
            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            I didn't vote yet today? I still haven't decided
            Why have you not decided? Your posts strongly indicate you would vote Zenith over Leetic simply because Roundbox was suspecting then (i got that impression when you literally said Leetic was your second pick after Zenith because of Roundbox) so I don't think my criticism is too early.

            I suppose I would rather you vote Zenith over Leetic 100% of the time but I kinda wish you had stronger reasons

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            • leetic
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2020
              • 7

              #531
              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by _Zenith_
              Strange, maybe cause it's you you were omitting the possibility but I think he's pocketing you way more than he's pocketing Raeko

              Raeko is typically a generally helpful individual so I can see newer players gravitating towards her, even unsure players too for similar reasons



              Right now my main commitment on Haze is that I think Haze slot being hit here opens the door for town to peek into where true motives for the wolf would operate and land us in the position we are in (assuming that Haze is a town hit here). I think Haze could be a UTR wolf that got the utr pass from not making stances and latching onto other people while people that are talking right now are being looked at harder than he is.
              I do agree that if there's pocketing going on from that pair, it's coming from Raeko's end. Their TR on Haze today is, to put it lightly, vague.

              Perhaps one reason why I am not as interested in pushing Haze is I feel they're the player most likely to self-resolve. It is often easy from NKA alone to tell whether a solo wolf is a community regular or not. Then again, I'm probably in the same boat for everyone else

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              • Haze with a Z
                Registered User
                • Feb 2024
                • 5

                #532
                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                Can you explain what you mean?

                If you mean why I was in his case for so long then that's because I was frustrated with his play and then with his responses.

                If you mean why I had my vote on him for so long then that isn't true as I only had my vote on him for a short time towards the end

                If you mean why did I say him/scumread him as wolf for so long then that also isn't true because I states multiple times before his return that he was likely town playing anti-town, and I even switched off him in post 280 ---I wasn't one of the ones who insta'd him

                Also on the Roundbox point:

                Clearly you just mean he was my biggest suspicion throughout most of my EOD posts, yeah?
                Yeah. But like you say on xelnya for like 110 posts or something and yes you did say that he was likely town you just kept your vote there for most of the end which seems stupid if you think he is town. I did prob look at the wrong votecount then ig, I thought you were the second on that one and had voted roundbox at some point but then I thought that showed you hadn’t actually.

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #533
                  Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                  Stepping away again for a few minutes

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                  • leetic
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 7

                    #534
                    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    I already acknowledged that your posts look worse in hindsight so why would I have yelled at you during EOD. Though honestly yeah I should have because pressuring people to claim like that is just bad and I should have called it out as such
                    I have caught wolves by forcing them to claim, but I'll just leave it at that for now

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                    • leetic
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 7

                      #535
                      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                      Originally posted by Haze with a Z
                      Cause the seer isn’t going to come back to life so I don’t think that them today saying that vts would claim seer here is ai when compared to them saying they wouldnt yesterday. I kinda wrote it away as irrelevant
                      My stance is they shouldn't, but it still happens sometimes. I don't know why that's so hard to grasp

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                      • _Zenith_
                        Accuracy Player
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4629

                        #536
                        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by leetic
                        I do agree that if there's pocketing going on from that pair, it's coming from Raeko's end. Their TR on Haze today is, to put it lightly, vague.

                        Perhaps one reason why I am not as interested in pushing Haze is I feel they're the player most likely to self-resolve. It is often easy from NKA alone to tell whether a solo wolf is a community regular or not. Then again, I'm probably in the same boat for everyone else
                        Self-Resolving is something that should be less on your radar right now

                        If we misslynch here nothing will be self resolved it will be a total coinflip





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                        • Haze with a Z
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2024
                          • 5

                          #537
                          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by _Zenith_
                          Lar and Raeko are both town leans

                          Leetic is for better or for worse a paranoid read from me

                          You are the only one I am red leaning and willing to vote at the moment
                          That’s fair. Your paranoia seems like it works the opposite way as mine. You made it clear you want to vote me I just couldn’t tell if the others was just cause you say you want to vote me tbh

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #538
                            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                            yall need a votecount? (please answer this question)
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • MixMasterLar
                              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 5401

                              #539
                              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by Haze with a Z
                              Yeah. But like you say on xelnya for like 110 posts or something and yes you did say that he was likely town you just kept your vote there for most of the end which seems stupid if you think he is town. I did prob look at the wrong votecount then ig, I thought you were the second on that one and had voted roundbox at some point but then I thought that showed you hadn’t actually.
                              Ah, vote count got confused by host. That was reported but wasn't accurate.

                              I think you are getting the timeline mixed up, and I was willing to vote for him after his return had changed my opinion. I wasn't just sitting a vote there saying he's town, and when I determined this was the case I remember switching to Round fairly quickly in the scheme of things

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                              • MixMasterLar
                                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 5401

                                #540
                                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                yall need a votecount? (please answer this question)
                                Yeah sure

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