TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Roundbox dying instead of being eternally roleblocked implies he was on track on his reads somewhere. I haven't had time to reread because I've been busy with work stuff but his posts are where we start

I left a reminder to question Leetic about that EOD though: You seemed really eagered to see if Round was willing to claim when he didn't have that much pressure and Xel was probably going to die anyway.

I know I had a vote on him, and Raeko tested the waters by voting that way but wasn't totally committed, but then you're telling him it's time to claim? I know you were interested in putting him in -1 but you seemed really eager to get to the claim there

I wanted whoever was most likely to be lynched to claim, and roundbox seemed to be headed in that direction at EoD as most people seemed interested in moving away from XelNya. I've just seen too many cases of town PRs failing to claim at EoD when it could've saved them, and I do stand by that the XelNya mislynch was less bad for town than a roundbox mislynch would have been.

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Hi everyone. I don’t feel that I was hiding behind people tbh like you are making it sound leetic.

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Like I feel like I only talked about stuff like that within like the first bit of the day and in a sense we are all new to the thread as it is like a new game but I feel like I did talk about my reasoning and stuff beyond that even if I didn’t have super like crazy good ideas ig if that makes sense

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Hi everyone. I don’t feel that I was hiding behind people tbh like you are making it sound leetic.

Posts like 284 gave that impression, as well as the fact that you weren't really committed to your own push. Regardless, I am more saying that I'd like to see more of your actual thoughts this phase

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I assumed that if the cop claim was real they’d die sometime by f3 regardless tbh.

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Posts like 284 gave that impression, as well as the fact that you weren't really committed to your own push. Regardless, I am more saying that I'd like to see more of your actual thoughts this phase

That’s fair, I just don’t think you are explaining it in a proper way tbh if that makes sense

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I wanted whoever was most likely to be lynched to claim, and roundbox seemed to be headed in that direction at EoD as most people seemed interested in moving away from XelNya. I've just seen too many cases of town PRs failing to claim at EoD when it could've saved them, and I do stand by that the XelNya mislynch was less bad for town than a roundbox mislynch would have been.

It got hectic there so I might have missed it but did you tell Xel to claim at all? About where would that be if you did?

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I assumed that if the cop claim was real they’d die sometime by f3 regardless tbh.

Perhaps, but there could've been the possibility it was a desperate move from a VT, which I have seen happen before (though I'm not sure if roundbox would ever make that move specifically) and wolves had a roleblocker so it wouldn't be high-risk to keep them alive. If the wolf played their cards right, they could even close out the game with a CC, but I guess that move wouldn't be without its own risk. I guess the fact that roundbox was killed more signifies that no one was so close that the wolf considered them a bigger threat.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

It got hectic there so I might have missed it but did you tell Xel to claim at all? About where would that be if you did?

I assumed XelNya would CC if they were the cop. The self-vote was basically an admission that they weren't seer. Besides, I don't want to encourage a massclaim at D1, the Seer should've had cover if they weren't about to be lynched

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Sorry roundbox :< RIP

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I assumed that if the cop claim was real they’d die sometime by f3 regardless tbh.

PMs will look like this
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Vanilla Town: Good Evening, and welcome to this small gathering ____. You are a Vanilla Town and as such, you have no powers. Only your voice and your vote.

Your win condition is to seek out and eliminate the wolf among you
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Seer: Good Evening and welcome to this small gathering ___. You are the Seer. As such, you will be granted a little more insight to the identities of the other players. Each night you will submit to me a name of one of the players via Discord, or PM. Before the next phase I shall reveal to you the role of the individual you have asked of me. Failure to do so will result in no information being given to you.

Your win condition is the same as a Vanilla Town, seek out and eliminate the wolf among you
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Wolf: Good Evening, and welcome to this small gathering ___. You are a Role-Blocking Wolf. It is your job to blend in with the town and eliminate them one by one during the day. During the night you will also submit a factional kill to eliminate another.
You will have access to a wolf chat to select who you kill during the night.(Discord link will be posted in PMs)

Your win condition is to eliminate town to a point where there an equal amount of town remaining.

While it is true that most FFR games don't allow targets to be the same two nights in a row, that doesn't seem like it's the case here

Meaning wolf coulda hugged Roundbox all the way to F3 and gotten the freest of mislynches

I think wolf really didn't want Round to have any more time in the kitchen to cook, and here in a short bit I'll ISO Round and see what ingredients he had

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I had a feeling about Zenith, and Roundbox attempted to yolo onto Zenith at the end there. Think I would like to focus on Zenith at least for the first part of the phase

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I assumed XelNya would CC if they were the cop. The self-vote was basically an admission that they weren't seer. Besides, I don't want to encourage a massclaim at D1, the Seer should've had cover if they weren't about to be lynched

Why would you make that assumption about Xel but didn't trust Roundbox enough in the same manner?

I am use to towns pointing out votes and declaring intent as a way to alert people if they need to claim or not. What I saw was that you noticed Round could be a wagon and aggressively threatened him to claim without any regard of who else was in that situation

To be clear I would and still agree with the vote and the gesture of giving him time to claim but the way you went about it rubbed me extremely wrong. It felt like he was already at -1 and you where making it clear he died there without a claim

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I hate all of you for the way EoD went and lack of clearheadedness that landed us down two town (and our PR, thanks!), even more pissed at Xel for going "I'm VT it doesn't matter" and self-votes himself instead of trying. I'm taking the moment to parse through Xel/Roundbox and seeing what jumps out at me.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I had a feeling about Zenith, and Roundbox attempted to yolo onto Zenith at the end there. Think I would like to focus on Zenith at least for the first part of the phase

Perhaps, roundbox was pushing Zenith for most of the phase and we definitely shouldn't allow them to slip under the radar today. But I also don't want it forgotten that roundbox was perhaps the player that was most openly skeptical of you