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  • gold stinger
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    • Jan 2007
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    #316
    Re: Song Corrections Thread

    Would need to edit/alter the original file in order to fix the issue with it, and it's old enough that it's not in the current batch system, and for some reason despite it being a 2013 release, it is not in the E-mail system that we pulled either. Give me some time to look into it.

    Edit: Audio at the beginning of the file should now be fixed.
    Last edited by gold stinger; 12-24-2022, 12:01 PM.
    Originally posted by YoshL
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    • Tru
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      • Jun 2022
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      #317
      Re: Song Corrections Thread

      Not sure how recent it is, but it appears the song F has been reattributed to a cranky alias "VILA" elsewhere, so we should update it here.

      RAVE / CLASSICAL / GAME MUSIC / DANCEPOP / TRANCE / INSTRUMENTAL / etc Since June 25th, 2014

      (in the automatic song info thing here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU636PRV0FU
      (dead rhythm game's attribution) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc0_FGDOUas

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      • gold stinger
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        #318
        Re: Song Corrections Thread

        Originally posted by Tru
        Not sure how recent it is, but it appears the song F has been reattributed to a cranky alias "VILA" elsewhere, so we should update it here.

        RAVE / CLASSICAL / GAME MUSIC / DANCEPOP / TRANCE / INSTRUMENTAL / etc Since June 25th, 2014

        (in the automatic song info thing here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU636PRV0FU
        (dead rhythm game's attribution) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc0_FGDOUas
        Looking into it, apparently it's supposed to be attributed as 'bubbles' (also responsible for Katharsis in-game), which is the band duo of Cranky & Pico. However, they recently transitioned the brand name of the duo to VILA as per Pico's official Twitter at https://twitter.com/pico_1023

        I'll change this in a bit, since it will involve moving & renaming the previously existing bubbles page on the wiki. Nice catch!


        Edit: done
        Last edited by gold stinger; 01-19-2023, 08:50 PM.
        Originally posted by YoshL
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        • James May
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          • Oct 2012
          • 3817

          #319
          Re: Song Corrections Thread

          Originally posted by gold stinger
          Changed to 'BUBBLES (Elite Ninja's Cut)' and 'BUBBLES (Psychotik's Cut)' as per rules defined at https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...&postcount=191

          Although, it could be a situation (and is debatable) on adding difficulty tags instead. However, I added them this way due to the extreme difference in nature between the files.

          I still retain the right from those rules that "if you guys start submitting multiple different cuts as a single Stepauthor (for Elite Ninja & Psychotik in this case) I will personally cut you (and at least 1 of the conflicting submissions) from the game."
          Going by this, wouldn't all three charts of Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) be listed as three completely different cuts? Since ~Zero~'s chart has one cut and both hi19's and Osit's cuts are also completely different as well? I was always the impression that the v2/3's stuff were using the same song audio and making a new interpretation of it.

          Correct me if I'm wrong though
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          • gold stinger
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            #320
            Re: Song Corrections Thread

            Originally posted by James May
            Going by this, wouldn't all three charts of Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) be listed as three completely different cuts? Since ~Zero~'s chart has one cut and both hi19's and Osit's cuts are also completely different as well? I was always the impression that the v2/3's stuff were using the same song audio and making a new interpretation of it.

            Correct me if I'm wrong though
            v2/v3 were to be reserved for reimagining's and very long overdue re-steps of the same chart but people have since wanted to swap to a v2/v3 system for anything of the same song, so it's a giant TO-DO at the moment.
            Originally posted by YoshL
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            • James May
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              • Oct 2012
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              #321
              Re: Song Corrections Thread

              Originally posted by gold stinger
              v2/v3 were to be reserved for reimagining's and very long overdue re-steps of the same chart but people have since wanted to swap to a v2/v3 system for anything of the same song, so it's a giant TO-DO at the moment.
              I see o: I was just very confused in that regard, thanks for clearing that up
              bananas


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              • bmah
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                • Oct 2003
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                #322
                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                Originally posted by James May
                Going by this, wouldn't all three charts of Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) be listed as three completely different cuts? Since ~Zero~'s chart has one cut and both hi19's and Osit's cuts are also completely different as well? I was always the impression that the v2/3's stuff were using the same song audio and making a new interpretation of it.

                Correct me if I'm wrong though
                v2s and so on generally had the same audio but there were some exceptions and that has been around for a while. There aren't many examples of different versions with different audio so that's probably why people don't remember. Until Tomorrow and Until Tomorrow v2 is an example of two songs that had different steps but also had different audio cuts. Personally I feel that further differentiation is too granular and would just add too much baggage to song titles.

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                • XelNya
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  #323
                  Re: Song Corrections Thread

                  Originally posted by gold stinger
                  Doing wiki digging on the topic, the name appeared to come from the official download from the website at http://www.dobuusagi.com/c_music.htm (it is still up).

                  The conclusion that jayde & noname came to, was that because the original release was named as-such and was only 2:23 long (version in-game is 2:25 long, the same length + 2 seconds of silence) and the full version of "風神少女 ~ the Article by Crow" is 3:50 in-length, it is a naming difference between the artist's official Cut version of the song, and the artist's official Full-Length version of the song.

                  Thoughts?
                  Since no one else touched this, and I happened to see it: it'd probably be best to just use the one from the album, if only for consistency. Just like there's two masters of Plastic Mind (the one in Queue somewhere, it's not currently in-game) with a pretty notable difference between the overall sound. The one Shadow & I subbed is the Floatia2 version, and not the 兎角宴舞曲 Courante Impromptu version.

                  For reference:

                  Flotia2 Plastic Mind


                  兎角宴舞曲 Courante Impromptu


                  It's really a question of how future proof you want the game client to be, and considering the space, it seems like a huge can of worms that can be remedied with keeping the Wiki nice and updated, but easily accessible.

                  Sorry for the weirdly timed / longer mention. I think with that file in queue, I should probably try and help future proof it so it's done right the first time.
                  Last edited by XelNya; 01-25-2023, 02:34 PM.

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                  • gold stinger
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                    #324
                    Re: Song Corrections Thread

                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    Since no one else touched this, and I happened to see it: it'd probably be best to just use the one from the album, if only for consistency. Just like there's two masters of Plastic Mind (the one in Queue somewhere, it's not currently in-game) with a pretty notable difference between the overall sound. The one Shadow & I subbed is the Floatia2 version, and not the 兎角宴舞曲 Courante Impromptu version.

                    For reference:

                    Flotia2 Plastic Mind


                    兎角宴舞曲 Courante Impromptu


                    It's really a question of how future proof you want the game client to be, and considering the space, it seems like a huge can of worms that can be remedied with keeping the Wiki nice and updated, but easily accessible.

                    Sorry for the weirdly timed / longer mention. I think with that file in queue, I should probably try and help future proof it so it's done right the first time.
                    Appreciate the input.

                    Changed.
                    Originally posted by YoshL
                    butts.


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                    • jh05013
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                      • Nov 2013
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                      #325
                      Re: Song Corrections Thread

                      "Balloon Fight" (difficulty 85) needs a difficulty tag.

                      Do "Phoenix" and "The Phoenix" need artist tags?
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                      • gold stinger
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                        #326
                        Re: Song Corrections Thread

                        Originally posted by jh05013
                        "Balloon Fight" (difficulty 85) needs a difficulty tag.

                        Do "Phoenix" and "The Phoenix" need artist tags?
                        sure and sure.
                        Originally posted by YoshL
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                        • Snupeh
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                          #327
                          Re: Song Corrections Thread

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                          • Zlyice
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            #328
                            Re: Song Corrections Thread

                            The two Define files could benefit from tags to differentiate them. I think they're different cuts of the same song, so perhaps the more recently released file could be v2?

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                            • jh05013
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                              #329
                              Re: Song Corrections Thread

                              In general, I wonder if v2 or duplicate name releases can be noticed and changed in advance.
                              mumei.sm: the minipack

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                              • storn42
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                                • Jun 2012
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                                #330
                                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                                Primitivism stepartist is credited to trumeastro instead of tru.


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