TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

I am so fucking sad I had to drop out of this. Good job town!

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

we have to go to game voting rather than rerun this game, I think
this game was played to completion, so as bad of a taste as it might leave in some mouths, I do think the next round of host voting should begin

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

aight maggots, you heard the man. send your games to bug and you might just pupate soon

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

it becomes possible to angleshoot whether someone is town or mafia before they're supposed to know that

I'm not saying they should flip early
All scum where dead and town won, yet the game continued; I'm saying once win conditions are met the game should end

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

I'm not saying they should flip early
All scum where dead and town won, yet the game continued; I'm saying once win conditions are met the game should end

ok so in the world where this happens
people know that wayward is town by the game continuing, and know that he's a wolf if it doesn't
don't you see the problem there?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

ok so in the world where this happens
people know that wayward is town by the game continuing, and know that he's a wolf if it doesn't
don't you see the problem there?

What do you mean in the world this happened it happened

What does it matter if the game ending let's them know he was a wolf the game ended

This is the equivalent of host slow rolling the game: no player could prevent the outcome and no choices mattered. Nothing could prevent wincon, so wincon was met

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

I'm sorry if the game continued people would realize he wasn't wolf and vote someone else with that knowledge but like

If he's wolf but the game continued, they would have to make that assumption and vote elsewhere anyway?

It's the same outcome: "congrats you won the game over an hour ago GG"

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

modkills should take the place of the daykill, otherwise wolves are (on average) heavily disadvantaged since town essentially gets a free kill

town gets hurt worse than wolves do when modkills need to happen, but you want to then also punish them further by taking away their lynch for a phase?

except for very few scenarios, modkills benefit wolves more. both the action (thinning town's numbers), and the cause (an inactive player) benefit wolves and hurt town.

as you said, modkills shouldn't have to happen. so assess it with me. they have to happen because of an MIA player. I say MIA because 5 posts over 48 hours is a very low bar to hit, and failing that means you aren't even playing the game.

So if the game is designed for 9 town and 2 wolves, the modkill in most cases forces that to 8 town and 2 wolves, instantly shifting the balance to wolves.

the only "benefit" to town in the whole thing is that the harm of the cause, (the inactive player that is already hurting town and negatively impacting the entire game), does not compound further by allowing the non-player to give wolves a SECOND free town (thereby thinning the town herd by both the inactive player and the subsequent nightkill). Modkilling only counteracts the compounding effect, but the harm to town is already done.

It makes no sense to add further harm by removing the lynch. By that logic, modkills should never ever happen under any circumstance because then, at least, the lynch control isn't stolen from town.

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

I agree with you Lar, but I think in this specific case since it happened at a time when bug wasn't around that kinda impacted how things went... they ended the game at the time that they were able to

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

I agree with you Lar, but I think in this specific case since it happened at a time when bug wasn't around that kinda impacted how things went... they ended the game at the time that they were able to

this is ultimately the reason, and it makes sense.

and I also agree with Lar here. If the game is over and nothing can stop it, the game is over. There's no benefit to allowing the phase to continue.

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

either way, send me your host suggestos and i'll post them tomorrow? or friday? I don't know how much time to give

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

either way, send me your host suggestos and i'll post them tomorrow? or friday? I don't know how much time to give

i've already gotten 2 fwiw

[Hateandhatred]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

what are you guys talking about?

Obviously the answer is to cardflip modkills right away.

whether or not it ends the game is irrelevant.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

what are you guys talking about?

Obviously the answer is to cardflip modkills right away.

whether or not it ends the game is irrelevant.

this is what my overall point would've been
maybe it would be best to push the threshold for posting to EOD itself

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 204 - Forest Feast POST-GAME THREAD

what are you guys talking about?

Obviously the answer is to cardflip modkills right away.

whether or not it ends the game is irrelevant.

it could impact the vote if a vote is happening