TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

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  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 263

    #46
    Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
    Okay no, they don't have a chat from what I can see...

    Also from what I'm reading....Avalon allows wolves to know the identities of...two vanilla townies?
    Thats to create a bigger pool for the wizards to hide in.

    Without adding the 2 VT to the mix theyd just know who the merlins are, only missing the color assignments

    In this case, the chance of the wolf team instantly winning the game by luck is 3! (16% chance of them winning by guessing the merlins randomly) and only gets better with more info


    With 2 VT in the mix, those odds decrease to 5! (0.8% chance)
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    To let the world be.

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    Originally posted by Charu
    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
    Originally posted by roundbox
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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    • FreezinIce
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 263

      #47
      Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

      Pretty much just punishes the merlins for outting themselves but im wondering if im overlooking something
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      To let the world be.

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      Originally posted by Charu
      Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
      Originally posted by roundbox
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
      Originally posted by Red
      My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
      Originally posted by TWG Ike
      SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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      • Shadow_God_10
        Somewhere, but not here
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 2226

        #48
        Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by FreezinIce
        Pretty much just punishes the merlins for outting themselves but im wondering if im overlooking something
        I think this sums it up unless you figure out what's being overlooked here and inform the class of what you learned

        Originally posted by Svaz
        more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        TIL women have breasts because of horniness
        Originally posted by bugkid666
        sunfan I fucked up
        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
        Originally posted by DaBackpack
        might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6207

          #49
          Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

          From what I can tell, merlins know each other but not the colors. They also know a wolf of their respective color, but only them.

          Wolves know each other and are handed five names, three of which are merlins while the other two are VT. The caviat here is wolves can't kill these five players the very first night, they're 100% safe sans today's vote.

          So... this game is going to be about not being super obvious for both sides it seems. Merlins can't just outright start accusing because if they did, the wolves would know instantly and just guess the colors to end the game prematurely.


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • Charu
            Snivy! Dohoho!
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 6207

            #50
            Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

            That's my take, anyways.


            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
            Had a very shiny nose
            And if you ever saw it
            You could even say it glows

            All of the other Snivies
            Used to laugh and call him names
            They never let poor Charu
            Join in any Snivy games

            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


            Originally posted by Vendetta21
            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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            • mellon_collie
              FFR Player
              • May 2017
              • 156

              #51
              Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
              I watched Mean Girls for the first time like a month ago and it was like walking into a time machine but instead of going to the 1980s like I would do it instead sent me back to 2004 :/
              How did you manage to go this long without seeing Mean Girls? I've watched it on my own accord a few times but most of the time it seems like it was just.... on. Someone else put it on, or it was on TV, or something. It was inescapable! Probably the biggest movie for our generation!

              Honestly the fashion in it holds up tremendously for being from 2004, a lot of other movies and TV shows from that era look a lot more dated than Mean Girls imo. The humour generally holds up too. IDK, I'm obviously a fan of the movie but I just feel like most other media from that time is way more dated especially when you think about other comedy that was popular back then

              Anyways hello

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #52
                Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                I am actually internally screaming reading this
                I was driving and by the grace of God I didn't crash

                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                If u want unsafe, im gonna skip shitposting and go directly into game talk aka how does town even play this game.

                Just reading the op a few times nothing seems to jump out at me. Are the merlins just supposed to be masons?

                Maybe the right play is just ignore all the wizardry and play it like mountainous.

                Theres a lot of info out there though so seems like kind of a waste to ignore it. Id like to get peoples opinions
                I'll use this one quote to respond to the general conversation about this

                It definitely seems super one sided to the wolves; town Merlin seem to just be expected to either wait on their respective wolf to do something they can either realistically tunnel for, or to just keep softing and hope others take the hints. That.....doesn't seem super useful.

                My first instinct was that the rest of Town could cover by hypo's and just playing the part but because wolves have a list that only includes 2 towns, they already know who would be horseshiting and who might actually be the role so that seems less useful then it should.

                So it seems to me the safest town play is to play vanilla for right now and avoid any amount of softing/claiming unless it gets to mylo. Our Merlin's are gonna have the same issue wolves have in that they carry the burden of knowledge, but we're gonna have to just like, make it happen I guess?

                I don't know guys I didn't vote for this game y'all did

                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                How did you manage to go this long without seeing Mean Girls? I've watched it on my own accord a few times but most of the time it seems like it was just.... on. Someone else put it on, or it was on TV, or something. It was inescapable! Probably the biggest movie for our generation!
                Actually this is a pretty interesting fact about me: for a lot of my early childhood we didn't have cable most of the time so I grew up watching VHS tapes. When I became a teen we had basic cable and I saw a lot of shows I hold nostalgia for, but had already made video games my main gig.

                Once I moved out in 2008 I never, ever had cable again. I have gone most of my life without access to it. If I saw a movie it was on a DVD I owned or in the theater, but I didn't watch a lot of movies. It's the one media that's easily accessible that I never really dove in. For an example, I didn't even see Star Wars IV until 2015ish.

                Anyway yes, the movie holds up extremely well in my opinion for what it is (obviously I don't think I'm the target audience, but I had a lot of fun. Also, I too was homeschooled and could relate the premise to when I first went to college) and I'm glad I saw it.

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #53
                  Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                  I took time from editing next Tuesday's video to check the thread and no post

                  I suppose mornings are always slow on FFR, but I'm mindful that Shado checked in with every player, so I don't know how much slack I really want to cut on the inactives this game.

                  I suppose for this set up, it seems host will modkill an inactive 90 minutes before EOD. If so, voting an inactive is actually not the correct play here as we will never be in a situation that forces to vote between content and lack of content.

                  I suppose we can only focus on the active this game, but the pool is still fairly small right now and that's a bummer

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                  • flashflash account
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 567

                    #54
                    Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                    Hello! (Threatening)
                    aka mikey

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                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                    Originally posted by QueenAshy
                    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                    • flashflash account
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 567

                      #55
                      Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                      Pokemon good see you in a bit
                      aka mikey

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                      Originally posted by FreezinIce
                      FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                      Originally posted by QueenAshy
                      I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                      i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                      seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                      • mellon_collie
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2017
                        • 156

                        #56
                        Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        I took time from editing next Tuesday's video to check the thread and no post

                        I suppose mornings are always slow on FFR, but I'm mindful that Shado checked in with every player, so I don't know how much slack I really want to cut on the inactives this game.
                        To be fair to the people who haven't checked in yet, Shado's message specifically mentioned the game starting today (the 18th). I know he mentioned in the signups thread that it might be rolled earlier but I'm not sure everyone checked the thread.

                        So I'm willing to give slack to those who haven't shown up yet wrt activity

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        I suppose for this set up, it seems host will modkill an inactive 90 minutes before EOD. If so, voting an inactive is actually not the correct play here as we will never be in a situation that forces to vote between content and lack of content.

                        I suppose we can only focus on the active this game, but the pool is still fairly small right now and that's a bummer
                        I think your interpretation of the post count rule is probably correct but I'm not 100%. It doesn't explicitly say when the modkill will occur. Like a player could meet the criteria for modkill 90 min before eod but the modkill doesn't actually happen until the phase ends for example.

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5401

                          #57
                          Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          I think your interpretation of the post count rule is probably correct but I'm not 100%. It doesn't explicitly say when the modkill will occur. Like a player could meet the criteria for modkill 90 min before eod but the modkill doesn't actually happen until the phase ends for example.
                          If the decision can't be reversed after the deadline, then it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. I suppose seeing the flips could influence EOD, but if a player is effectively dead it seems weird to withhold that info

                          Requesting Host Clarification on the Inactive Rule

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5401

                            #58
                            Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                            Also I know it's always morally right to vote Mikey but ditching the game for Pokémon

                            Come on man

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                            • flashflash account
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 567

                              #59
                              Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                              Also I know it's always morally right to vote Mikey but ditching the game for Pokémon

                              Come on man
                              I CAN MULTIQUEUE
                              aka mikey

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                              Originally posted by FreezinIce
                              FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                              Originally posted by QueenAshy
                              I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                              Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                              i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                              Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                              seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                              • flashflash account
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 567

                                #60
                                Re: TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                                I watched Mean Girls for the first time like a month ago and it was like walking into a time machine but instead of going to the 1980s like I would do it instead sent me back to 2004 :/
                                I chronically reference mean girls despite hating the movie
                                aka mikey

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                                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                                FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                                Originally posted by QueenAshy
                                I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                                i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                                seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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