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  • fatfuck42
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2016
    • 7

    #1171
    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

    I was one of the fake know-it-alls. I got tricked!! I thought I was slick!!

    Based on who got picked as a know-it-all, who got picked as a wolf, and who got picked as a PR, it DOES sound like the mastermind is a veteran, or at least someone familiar enough with the community to make those decisions. It's always possible that sunfan played a hand in making the selections too, but still, just for the sake of example let's say it was actually someone like funkywong or spongebob who got picked...I don't think sunfan would say, "Hey, you can pick whoever you want, but it'd be really funny if you made backpack the SK and xiz a fake know-it-all." So we can assume that at least a good chunk of the choices were made by the mastermind themselves.

    But then, considering the goal of the mastermind is to not be guessed, why would they select a team composition that points towards them being identified? Here's some options I can think of:

    1) They don't care as much about winning or losing and wanted to pick a composition that'd be funny/memorable for TWG200.
    2) They made their selections in earnest with no ulterior motives.
    3) They made their selections in an attempt to frame another player who would go with option 1 or 2.
    4) They made their selections in an attempt to frame a player who would go with option 3.

    For option 1, I could see it being blind, backpack, haku, or cel.

    For option 2, I could see it being subaru, blind, charu, xel, or haku.

    For option 3, I could see it being tforce (frame fg) or raeko (frame any given veteran).

    For option 4, I could see it being xiz.

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    • gold stinger
      Signature Extraordinare~~
      Event Staff
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Jan 2007
      • 6428

      #1172
      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

      I honestly think the answer is just T-Force here given Freezin & DBP are in cahoots with that information with one another and verify each other's information. If there's one mastermind and either of them are it then that doesn't make sense, and other know-it-all's should have the game information showing that there's nothing random or separate in wincon's that would have them behave in that fashion.


      That is, if I'm understanding all of this correctly.
      Originally posted by YoshL
      butts.


      - Tosh 2014






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      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6207

        #1173
        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

        I, too, think this is all T-Force's doing, but meh.

        Can't be arsed to dig into the game.


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • SubaruPoptart
          da kyo~
          • Nov 2015
          • 737

          #1174
          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

          I'm strongly of the belief it's Force, Xiz, or Backpack somehow, but with all this being thrown in can I just say

          What the FUCK?


          I'm all down for a bastard game dgmw but jesus this was and still is a lot to keep track of.






          Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
          Originally posted by the sun fan
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
          Oh God it's Subaru
          Originally posted by Deamerai
          damnit subaru
          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
          Originally posted by the sun fan
          if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
          wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


          Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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          • SubaruPoptart
            da kyo~
            • Nov 2015
            • 737

            #1175
            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

            Only issue with these beliefs is that they're either heavily sheeped or have literally no basis behind them. There's a lot of things pointing to it being them and a lot of things pointing to it NOT being them, so for me unless there's some revelation I'm.. not too sure how to divine who's who.






            Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



            Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
            Oh God it's Subaru
            Originally posted by Deamerai
            damnit subaru
            Originally posted by FreezinIce
            You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
            Originally posted by Funnygurl555
            wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


            Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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            • SubaruPoptart
              da kyo~
              • Nov 2015
              • 737

              #1176
              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

              [QUOTE=SubaruPoptart;4769513] or have literally no basis behind them.

              *basis of my own






              Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
              Originally posted by the sun fan
              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



              Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
              Oh God it's Subaru
              Originally posted by Deamerai
              damnit subaru
              Originally posted by FreezinIce
              You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
              Originally posted by the sun fan
              if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
              Originally posted by Funnygurl555
              wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


              Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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              • T-Force
                Your world ends with you
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2007
                • 4753

                #1177
                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                If you all seriously think I built this game and picked myself as a wolf and funnygurl as a town considering the usual rivalry, y'all need to sit down and think for a moment.

                We have 5 claimed/revealed Know-It-Alls currently:
                Bugkid
                Xiz
                Freezin
                Haku
                and Plop


                If anyone else is a Know-It-All and has not claimed in the Discord, claim it here.
                Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                • T-Force
                  Your world ends with you
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4753

                  #1178
                  Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                  Staying on my mod account because the game is over so fuck it.
                  Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                  • T-Force
                    Your world ends with you
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4753

                    #1179
                    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                    1) SubaruPoptart
                    2) gold stinger
                    3) star-crossed
                    4) blindreper1179
                    --------------------------------
                    5) storn42
                    --------------------------------
                    6) roundbox
                    7) Charu
                    8) DaBackpack
                    11) bolth mannn
                    --------------------------------
                    12) Psychoangel691
                    13) cedolad
                    14) XelNya
                    --------------------------------
                    15) Xiz
                    --------------------------------
                    16) T-Force
                    17) bugkid666
                    18) mellonxcollie
                    --------------------------------
                    19) Hakulyte
                    20) FreezinIce
                    21) 123kappa3
                    22) Celirra
                    23) fatfuck42
                    24) mcdaddio
                    25) MixMasterLar
                    26) Shadow_God_10



                    We know replacements would absorb the role of Mastermind if they subbed out. We also know the modkilled players were not the Mastermind as sunfan confirmed this.

                    From this, it's process of elimination.
                    The new players are automatically out as they wouldn't know a lot, or any, of the other players, nor any of the fun lore (ex. FG and I on opposite teams; DBP as SK, etc).

                    Mcdaddio, kappa, and logman/star-crossed get crossed off here.
                    Bug stays because they know enough of us, and also have heard about DBP's penchance for winning as 3P.

                    Alternatively, cedolad hasn't played in years and may not know a lot about the current playerbase and lore. Thus, I think cedolad can get crossed off here.

                    Next up, and this is a biggie for me. Who would sunfan go to for building a game. It would have to be someone sun is comfortable enough with, and has experience in game building.
                    Off of the signups list, your options are:
                    blindreper1179 (Resident Evil game, and I think Pokémon dreamers?)
                    roundbox
                    Charu
                    Funnygurl/Psychoangel691
                    Xiz
                    T-Force
                    FreezinIce
                    Celirra
                    fatfuck42
                    Shadow_God_10

                    Ergo, the following players are crossed off.
                    Subaru, gold stinger, storn, DBP (incredibly), benguin/bolthy, Xel, bug, Raeko, Haku, and choof/Lar are crossed off at this point.
                    Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                    • Charu
                      Snivy! Dohoho!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6207

                      #1180
                      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                      I refuse to believe it's Celirra

                      Freezin could be a pick.

                      I strongly think it's Xiz now.

                      Round would not do anything like this ever.

                      Funnygurl would not leave the game like this ever.

                      fatfuck is a possibility, but I don't believe they are the one.

                      No way Shadow_God_10 would create something like this.

                      blind I think was inactive for a year before he suddenly came back for this, I don't think it's him.

                      T-Force (I like how you list yourself) definitely a contender if they wanted to set up the game explicitly to frame Xiz if they knew this was going to happen.

                      Cel was way too mad, no way he's it.


                      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                      Had a very shiny nose
                      And if you ever saw it
                      You could even say it glows

                      All of the other Snivies
                      Used to laugh and call him names
                      They never let poor Charu
                      Join in any Snivy games

                      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #1181
                        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                        Oh, I did Cel twice, cool. That means I doubly don't think it's him.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • T-Force
                          Your world ends with you
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4753

                          #1182
                          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                          1) SubaruPoptart
                          2) gold stinger
                          3) star-crossed

                          4) blindreper1179
                          --------------------------------
                          5) storn42
                          --------------------------------
                          6) roundbox
                          7) Charu

                          8) DaBackpack
                          11) bolth mannn

                          --------------------------------
                          12) Psychoangel691
                          13) cedolad
                          14) XelNya

                          --------------------------------
                          15) Xiz
                          --------------------------------
                          16) T-Force
                          17) bugkid666
                          18) mellonxcollie
                          --------------------------------
                          19) Hakulyte

                          20) FreezinIce
                          21) 123kappa3
                          22) Celirra
                          23) fatfuck42

                          24) mcdaddio
                          25) MixMasterLar

                          26) Shadow_God_10



                          Now then, from here, we look at who rolled what in terms of non-VT roles.

                          WOLVES
                          logman/star-crossed
                          blindreper
                          storn42
                          XelNya
                          Xiz
                          T-Force

                          SERIAL KILLER
                          DBP

                          KNOW-IT-ALLS (currently)
                          Xiz
                          bugkid
                          Plop
                          Haku
                          Freezin

                          From the SK, we know it has to be someone who has been around for several years to have seen Backpack win as an SK a handful of years ago, as well as seeing him win as Acquisitioner in the Danganronpa mystery game.

                          Wolf-team seems pretty meme-y with one exception:
                          logman.
                          Who puts a new player, and one who has ZERO connection to anyone here, as a wolf.

                          Actually, going to logman's profile, he has on his friends list (ergo proving some form of connection prior):
                          Hakulyte, Subaru, gold stinger. Shadow_God also claims to know who they are.
                          Both subaru and gold stinger were the only ones who signed up before logman.








                          Is it the lord of chaos and dicks himself?
                          ... Oh great, I think I just subverted my reads.
                          Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                          • T-Force
                            Your world ends with you
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4753

                            #1183
                            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                            My other main idea is who would put funnygurl as a town and me as a wolf.
                            Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                            • SubaruPoptart
                              da kyo~
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 737

                              #1184
                              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                              wait i just realized how are we to take a candidate of the mastermind's stuff seriously :thinking:

                              tinfoil part 4 here but I'm js






                              Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                              Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                              Oh God it's Subaru
                              Originally posted by Deamerai
                              damnit subaru
                              Originally posted by FreezinIce
                              You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                              Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                              wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                              Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                              • SubaruPoptart
                                da kyo~
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 737

                                #1185
                                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                                I also just realized I said that with my suspicions in mind, but I guess that makes what I said redundant until consensus suspicions are met I guess??






                                Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
                                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                                Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                                Oh God it's Subaru
                                Originally posted by Deamerai
                                damnit subaru
                                Originally posted by FreezinIce
                                You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                                Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                                wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                                Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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