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  • mellon_collie
    FFR Player
    • May 2017
    • 156

    #3361
    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    @wild question for game 2

    Should you guys mass claim ? I'm asking this because it looks like you guys can only die one at a time and night kills doesn't seems to exist.

    This should outweight the danger of dying and help game 1 progress faster (?)
    This is a really interesting idea...

    Originally posted by Xiz
    brb driving to the getty
    what's the getty?

    I am liking the energy of Xiz's re-entrance today so far. At the very least it's generating some good discussion

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    • MixMasterLar
      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2006
      • 5400

      #3362
      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

      Originally posted by Xiz
      I'll be reading the thread for the next few hours. It will be slow. I won't be able to go any faster. If you intend on actually solving my role, please re-link for me. If your convinced im a wolf just vote me, and i'll skim past your posts prioritizing other players thoughts.
      At best this is bad play
      At worse, in effect, what you are doing is justifying not engaging with players who don't read you as you would like. You are acting like these players are being unreasonable and my very short, likely not super helpful answer to that is "they are".

      Dispite what Haku implies, no one is voting you becauseyou work alot; no one is voting you for being a loving and attentive boyfriend; no one is voting you because of schedule timing: you are getting votes for lack of input and content in past phases. It is not you're fault that you were busy, but it is not our fault either. We vote with what we have, in thread, and not what could have been.

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      • Xiz
        TWG Chaos
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Feb 2012
        • 3399

        #3363
        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        This is a really interesting idea...



        what's the getty?

        I am liking the energy of Xiz's re-entrance today so far. At the very least it's generating some good discussion
        A museum

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        • Xiz
          TWG Chaos
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2012
          • 3399

          #3364
          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          At best this is bad play
          At worse, in effect, what you are doing is justifying not engaging with players who don't read you as you would like. You are acting like these players are being unreasonable and my very short, likely not super helpful answer to that is "they are".
          See all of Benguin’s posts, your right but wrong at the same time, but I understand what you are saying

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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5400

            #3365
            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

            Originally posted by Xiz
            the people in the post above are part of my never lynch pile.

            Originally posted by fatfuck42
            Regarding the xiz discussion from last night, I really don't see an issue with those posts. You can say what you want about everything else he's done this game, but I don't think xiz is the type of person who'd lie about having to complete a sprint for a big project he's been working on, or even embellish how taxing that sprint's been on him just for the sake of giving himself slank cover. So, to me it's NAI. Those posts would've been made no matter what alignment he'd been given.
            As I said in last post, these are not the reasons in and of themselves. Xiz has done very little with his time and we can only vote with what we have.

            Originally posted by fatfuck42
            I have an idea about that, but I'll save it for when OOTC turns back on.
            I wish you wouldn't, but I will not press this issue


            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            I am liking the energy of Xiz's re-entrance today so far. At the very least it's generating some good discussion
            I don't think I agree with this. Can you further explain what kind of energy? What mindset do you think this energy is coming from? Are these assessments different or the same between his tone and his reads/gameplan?

            Raeko, you have a habit of writing a post like this, talking about discussions but then rarely contribute to them in thread past a few sentences that just observed. I want to believe you were the pure one on that wagon, and I need your help in solving the game. No number of thoughts is too many. Help us read you and find our footing in where we go next

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5400

              #3366
              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

              Originally posted by Xiz
              See all of Benguin’s posts, your right but wrong at the same time, but I understand what you are saying
              Let's say I am wrong in my assumption on other's willingness to cut you slack. And I make this hypothetical in the best of intentions I promise

              How is your behavior/response to it helping the game state for town? Is it as mechanically/townsided of an action as picking up from here and just earnestly trying to solve the game state as time allows?

              To solve the gamestate, should you need be as informed as time allows?

              ~

              This is important to convey so let me give it it's own line

              It doesn't matter to me if you solve the game or arrive at the right answer so long as I can believe you attempted with the time and resources you had

              I just need to believe you tried to solve what you could in good faith.

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5400

                #3367
                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                I .... don't know why one of my lines is gone

                When Xiz said he wasnt lyncing those above him, the only alive player was Cel. So Cel is his one "no lynch"?

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5400

                  #3368
                  Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                  If this helps you save time, Xiz, then I want to remind you we are less interested in solving anyone who lynched Storn.

                  While I'd love reads on everybody for future reference, this phase we only focus on the players that could have been trying to save him: yourself, Kappa, Raeko and Cel.

                  If time is tight, these are the players you'd really need to articulate thoughts on today.

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                  • Xiz
                    TWG Chaos
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 3399

                    #3369
                    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    How is your behavior/response to it helping the game state for town? Is it as mechanically/townsided of an action as picking up from here and just earnestly trying to solve the game state as time allows?

                    To solve the gamestate, should you need be as informed as time allows?

                    ~

                    This is important to convey so let me give it it's own line

                    It doesn't matter to me if you solve the game or arrive at the right answer so long as I can believe you attempted with the time and resources you had

                    I just need to believe you tried to solve what you could in good faith.
                    Its kind of a loaded question since your asking me, I feel others should answer this more than me. The only hard information we have is there are red and green flips. That’s it. I’m progressing based off of that. Rest is pure speculation. Also, I think mood is a huge part as well in how people have been posting this game. Any of the people I said in the big post, or even like roundbox and haku

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                    • Xiz
                      TWG Chaos
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3399

                      #3370
                      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      I .... don't know why one of my lines is gone

                      When Xiz said he wasnt lyncing those above him, the only alive player was Cel. So Cel is his one "no lynch"?
                      It carries over to game 2 if I end up there

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                      • Xiz
                        TWG Chaos
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 3399

                        #3371
                        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        If this helps you save time, Xiz, then I want to remind you we are less interested in solving anyone who lynched Storn.

                        While I'd love reads on everybody for future reference, this phase we only focus on the players that could have been trying to save him: yourself, Kappa, Raeko and Cel.

                        If time is tight, these are the players you'd really need to articulate thoughts on today.
                        It’s not that I’m less interested, I think there are enough people trying to solve storns wagon, we got enough people why not explore other ideas?

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                        • Xiz
                          TWG Chaos
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3399

                          #3372
                          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                          However, if you want me to focus on that I will

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                          • Celirra
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 749

                            #3373
                            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                            If this helps you save time, Xiz, then I want to remind you we are less interested in solving anyone who lynched Storn.

                            While I'd love reads on everybody for future reference, this phase we only focus on the players that could have been trying to save him: yourself, Kappa, Raeko and Cel.

                            If time is tight, these are the players you'd really need to articulate thoughts on today.
                            If I was trying to "save" storn, I would've voted for ben. Wolf chat would've been like "CEL VOTE FOR BEN @@@@@" and I would've hobbled to my keyboard and shitted out some stuff.

                            Did I want to save storn? yes. Did I do anything about it? no.

                            also there's a chance that literally both ben and storn are a hit. We can't confirm the former, so wagonomics aren't really that simple. Sounds like an easy and convenient way to clear your slot though.
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                            • Celirra
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 749

                              #3374
                              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                              It doesn't matter to me if you solve the game or arrive at the right answer so long as I can believe you attempted with the time and resources you had

                              I just need to believe you tried to solve what you could in good faith.
                              You're full of shit with this. You'll never be satisfied that some people did enough with the time that they did have.
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                              • Celirra
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 749

                                #3375
                                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                @wild question for game 2

                                Should you guys mass claim ? I'm asking this because it looks like you guys can only die one at a time and night kills doesn't seems to exist.

                                This should outweight the danger of dying and help game 1 progress faster (?)
                                I don't think mass claim is a good idea. We can't actually validate much of it let alone cross-check by nature of it being a closed bastard game, and it might falsely "clear" people.
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