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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
every townread that Yoshl is getting is marginally disrespectful to Yoshl's scum range
Freezin, you were there in the Sacred Stones game saying "if Yoshl is scum, we've lost to him." If you're just giving him a d0 read, fine
Xiz, you know your townread of Yoshl is far too strong, like you have to be aware of thisTWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
explain to me why it's too strong? Should I be looking more into yoshl? I'd argue out of the playerlist today he is one of the most vocally towny players proving what feels like natural responses, or at least trying to prod players.
Or is it because you just full on disagree with my mindset of how I'm aproaching wolves this game, because this feels rather opportunistic of you
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
In all seriousness, I've done my best trying to explain what my train of thought has been this game so far.
It might not be how yall are currently approaching finding wolves but I have never in TWG made a more honest post about my logic and just posting it right off the bat. In the past I've said "lol youll find out later" which gets me killed, or I've been more aggressive which has gotten me killed, and I just really, really don't want to be mislynched again because of this. I feel like at least in the past 10 games the only time when people trust me is when I'm so uncomfortably town that I snipe all 3 wolves instantly (see the jojo meme game with raeko).
I'm really trying to adjust my meta to help expalin myself more due to previously getting off'd as a blue one too many times. (no, this isnt a blue soft)
Also, thank you haku, I look forward to looking at you d2 or d3 lol
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
So sunfan, even if you disagree about my opinion on yoshl, i'm still holding my ground.
No, it's not too strong for looking at just d1. I am clearing yoshl off the table. His tone between you and him and his response to being not mindmeldy with you, then explaining his approach is something a wolf just doesn't do.
If he is a wolf here, great. whatever. There are pleanty of other days where he can be looked at but no I believe it's a damn good read.
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
So Ul has responded a bit. Waiting for them to give any reads. I still like where my vote is on them at the moment.
I still like where my vote is.
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
oof i need to eat lunch i'm repeating myself. repeating myself.
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
At the start of the game I was entertaining the possibility that haku/shadow are wolfing together, but I've cooled on that idea now. Some of that stemmed from shadow seeming different from when I played with him in the AC game. He seemed more agro/adversarial here, but as the phase has gone on he's been acting more and more like Eugene so I feel he's town now.
Freezin seems natural and legit in terms of tone, focus, analysis, etc etc, so I think he's town. Same goes for Xiz and sunfan, but I don't want to lean too heavily into townreading them until I see an EOD or two. Let's say I'm cautiously optimistic there.
Ulle I'm a little less certain on now. Gut still says town, but her last big post reminds me too much of how I (and I suppose roundbox as well) tend to wolf. I'm not sure where the line of "a wolf would be more cautious of posting wolf-style" and "this is a wolf posting wolf-style" is...
FFA I'm really torn on, and that's kinda where I've been focusing. I think in general his posts and pushes read wolfy, but then when I asked him those questions earlier his response was quick and cogent, making me think he actually believes what he's putting forward and doesn't need to consult his fake narrative to make sure his story lines up. For others who've played with him when he's a wolf, how good is he at thinking on his feet?Comment
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
That's less of a reads list and more me trying to vocalize my thought process since freezin made me realize I haven't really been doing that, lolComment
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
alright, I wasn't expecting an exposé on this from you.
wrt mindset, I don't think you and I have really been on the same page, but to say that I "full on disagree with your mindset" would definitely be going too far.
Maybe part of this is the fact that you wolfed with Yoshl in Sacred Stones (where he was self-admittedly rusty) rather than were forced to play town against him, but I believe in my heart that Yoshl would answer my question of "Is what you said to me firmly within your scum range?" with the answer of "yes, it is." Now, he might not do this, because fuck sunfan, but I do believe that he has done nothing that should be clearing. Yoshl doesn't know how to not be a "vocally towny player [prodding people's responses.]"
I can sympathize with the mislynch bit, at least.
Go for it, hold your ground, buy 15 AR-15s and unload all of them into the air.
I'm not calling Yoshl scummy. My read on Yoshl is that he is on the signups list, and has a d0 pass from me. My point is that Yoshl can absolutely be mafia here. If your read is just a d0 pass, then we're closer than I thought we were on this read, but yours seems to have a very weak reason for justification, and you seem to be insisting that it is very strong.
The actual moment itself that you're talking about, yeah, it doesn't feel scummy to me, but that's about where that read ends for me. Even if Yoshl were scummy today, its not really the person I want to but heads with today (in fact, its the last person I would've tried to try to push a kill on [regardless of my alignment] today pre-signups, with Freezin being a close second and Haku being a virtual inevitability).
If you insist on the read, fine, I think its not a damn good read, and can easily be wrong. You haven't found Yoshl town for the right reasons, but yes, Yoshl has plentyTWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
posted too quickly
Yoshl has plenty of room to be town**TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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