jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

[mellon_collie]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

Sounds good enough. melloncollie

this post really reminds me of the antori vote I picked on earlier. obviously they can't both be wolves but they bug me for the same reason

why did one post change your mind so easily?

He’s close behind, but your reasoning is better than mine. My reasoning’s just that his argument doesn’t hold any bound.

don't you think the votes last day give us any information? what do you think about gold stinger and shadowgod voting for each other, knowing that shadow was wolf?

[mellon_collie]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

my vote is gonna be back on goldstinger if dragon flips town cause i had gut he's wolfing
i still dont think mellon would be this inactive as wolf

are there any specific posts that give you that gut feeling for gold stinger?

do you think I was lying about being away for the weekend? basically, why would my activity be different based on my alignment?

[gold stinger]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

Just got back from work, I like what has been posted in the thread, I've read all of it, I want to post about it, but I have to go back out for about another hour or so.

tl;dr I still think we should follow the lynch order I provided, or in the situation that Raeko ends up taking the majority vote because of MN's big dick reads I am ok with swapping Raeko & Sanzath in the lynch order.

I'll post more in-depth when I get back, just going to the local bank to do some banking.

[MarioNintendo]

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but just to be clear you think shadow's partner told him to stop trying?

even if I was a wolf I would never ever tell my partner to give up, ever. one of my biggest peeves in this game is when people self vote or otherwise give up, I think you should always try to somehow talk your way out or at least meme rather than giving up.

I'm not sure how much I buy into that theory anyway. I think it's entirely possible shadowgod just realized his position was pretty impossible and gave up on his own. I don't think he would have needed someone else to tell him he only had four minutes

You read that right. I think his "I'm outtie" post reads like there was some external intervention. I mean, just two minutes before that, he was still scrambling, trying to find anything to incriminate gold stinger.

Gold Stinger looks good, but I don't think he looks perfect. Considering at least 2 people voted/wanted to vote for him this phase, I think Shadow_God could have found something, anything, to sway them at the last second.

So we're back to square one. Either Shadow_God was told "you're going to make us lose, stop it!", or he gave up himself.

That doesn't seem like him, though. I truly read Shadow_God as someone who would fight until the end to a fault.

It's interesting that you say as a wolf partner you would never tell your partner to give up, ever. I guess I'll put on my archeologist hat and see what I can find. I don't want to, though. ugh lol

[MarioNintendo]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

because of MN's big dick

**** YES

[dragonmegaXX]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

so I'm doing this right now but something too glaring just stood out to me



WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT OUR POSTS THERE BUD

do our jokes and shitposts really mean so little to you

I just just read this and I meant I've not actually seen or read a single game of TWG through before XD I need to actually do that, Im sure I'd find many shit posts hilarious.

Just a small thing from trying to reread some of this day. I missed some things obviously.

[gold stinger]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

back from bank.

[gold stinger]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

Sanzath why did you wait 15 hours to respond to some of the stuff I put on you

[gold stinger]

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your wolf read on yoshi is weak. If you want to consider the scenario of manufactured evidence in Antori's favor, then you have to consider the same scenario possibly being manufactured against Yoshi, and Yoshi didn't even post. I've explained my point on dragonmega, and raeko, while I see it, it's waaaaaay the fuck out there, because the only time I really saw raeko in this thread was during EoD. I think there's a lot more evidence that says the wolf is elsewhere.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN BY THE BOLDED PART

It means that if you're willing to consider the scenario that the conversation between Shadowgod and Antori is fabricated, then you should also take into consideration the possibility of the conversation between Shadowgod & Yoshi being fabricated, which didn't even happen because Yoshi was not around to post.

scum leaning Antori from that back and forth would mean town leaning Yoshi for me.

[gold stinger]

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AND WHY WOULD I THEN PROCEED TO NIGHTKILL H&H?????

This is something I actually agree with. Wolf should have killed me.

[gold stinger]

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I DON'T WANNA WOLFREAD YOU BUT GODDAMN IS IT HARD WHEN YOUR LYNCH ORDER GETS RID OF EVERYONE MOST LIKELY TO CONTEST YOU LEADING THE GAME AND LEAVES INACTIVE SHEEP ALIVE

I also agree with this, and it's quite infuriating. If the inactive set of town (ShyYoshiGuy, Antori, Raeko, dragonmega) don't start taking the reigns of the situation and start attempting to solve the game from outside of a mechanic standpoint then the next few day phases are going to be largely inactive, and ripe for the final wolf to steer conversation whichever way they please.

At least with MN's post I am satisfied knowing that no matter who dies in the night phase tonight, there's still going to be a lot of town solving happening.

[MarioNintendo]

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Please wolf, whoever you are, even if you're alone in wolfchat, please write your thoughts and strategy as the game unfolds, i want to read this later

[sanzath]

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i dont read the bigger posts i just glance over them, yes i think dragon is still a good vote to my knowledge they haven't done anything to prove me otherwise
list of things that prove me otherwise:
-reads
-voting

wtf?

[gold stinger]

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

Also I think sanzath's string of posts is mostly towny based on tone, I like his enthusiasm for the game and his frustration about people not posting seems genuine. I'd think a wolf would be more happy about a null game state

The fact that he is SO defensive toward gold stinger is a little bit worrisome and does look like overreacting based on how far away eod is and how many people even seem interested in following on that push at this point. but this could just be mixing with his frustration at the lack of activity

imho Sanzath pre-goldstinger vote d1 seemed like he was taking advantage of that null game state. Like it helps that questions are being tossed around now, but when you reflect on MN's post (Get ready to put on your tinfoil hats for this dose of tunnel vision):

Overall, to me this just screams "Veteran wolf", someone who has rolled wolf before, or has seen enough games to see where that eod was headed. Someone active enough to catch Shadow_God in mid-air and prevent them from spilling some beans.

Looking at our set of players, this would put some light on:
- Gold Stinger (hate to list him, because I like GS very much this game, but if he was wolf this is how I think he would play it)
- Melloncollie
- Sanzath

Conclusion: To find the wolf this phase, I'll look at users who are
* easy going
* making obvious town reads (possibly to get people to agree with them and find them not menacing)

It really does seem to me, that after Sanzath wasn't getting really anywhere with me, he shifted gears to open frustration on the game and swap to asking literally everyone questions about everything.

[mellon_collie]

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I also agree with this, and it's quite infuriating. If the inactive set of town (ShyYoshiGuy, Antori, Raeko, dragonmega) don't start taking the reigns of the situation and start attempting to solve the game from outside of a mechanic standpoint then the next few day phases are going to be largely inactive, and ripe for the final wolf to steer conversation whichever way they please.

At least with MN's post I am satisfied knowing that no matter who dies in the night phase tonight, there's still going to be a lot of town solving happening.

ok so here's my take on things as of right now:

I'm finding Antori and Yoshi suspicious for essentially the same reason. They both seem very easily persuaded and it's really hard for me to read them based on their reasoning since they both just kinda use other people's posts as reasoning.

I think Yoshi is more suspicious though based on a few things. I'm not sure about this post

Much less lazy, much more because I have no clue what I’m doing. But I am also lazy because I’m busy.

it seems like excuses to sheep town read people, and not have a lot of accountability for his own reads

and also the fact that he wanted to lynch anyone inactive right off the bat. with so many inactives that seems like a safe mislynch bet for a wolf

I still think it's highly probable that gold stinger is town, and I wouldn't vote for MN today even though he is currently voting for me ;_;

Sanzath I'm going to have to read again since I wasn't quite paying enough attention yesterday and he's posted quite a bit. I liked his tone but that's not enough to go off at this point

Dragon I'm having a tough time reading despite ISOing them earlier