TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

For me; it's between Pazzaz/ShadoWolfe/Andy-o24.

It could be an orchestrated setup with 2 players too, but I don't want to go there today.

Why the fuck are you throwing Pazzaz in there? Have you not been keeping up with the thread, Hakulyte?

You are actually very wrong about the tell. I wouldn't even go as far as to assume what the tell is without an explanation from either of us who know and noticed it.

That was bad from you.

Aryxi has never rolled wolf before so he can't have a tell
And Shado basically reported his entire game: "Hey I'm here I'll read oh look pressure byyyyeeee"

Unless you want to convince what you noticed is legit, I'm going to conclude you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Again.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

The tell is the form of which Aryxi defends himself when pressured. He always uses the same manner, style, mannerisms, tone, and almost words when he's town-aligned and being attacked. It's such a bad tell and yet, it's been decisive so many times already for Aryxi that I'm able to say the slot (at that time because I have no idea what Haku is doing right now) was town-aligned.

Didn't see this.

I'm gonna call that your gut because at best that's what it boils down to.

Again, I don't think he has ever rolled wolf so we don't know if he acts differently, as safe of an assumption as that may seem to you.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

A couple things to point out now that I've calmed down a little:

AA's shooter is not necessarily one of the people present in the aftermath of the shot. Literally anyone could've PMed sunfan the action at any time, not necessarily one of the people actively viewing thread at the time that the kill was announced.

I'm not pushing Haku because I think he shot AA, I'm pushing Haku because I think Haku is scum and deserves to be pushed, and AA's killing prompted me to do so because it erased any notion I had of "having time to develop reads". I was content to let Haku prove himself on his own before, but I realized after seeing him in thread that the best way to have him prove shit is to pressure him to do so. Still no response to my latest post to you, Haku. You're not helping yourself here.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

ninja'd, nvm

[Hakulyte]

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Why the fuck are you throwing Pazzaz in there? Have you not been keeping up with the thread, Hakulyte?

Is there anything that proves he's a confirmed town?

Still no response to my latest post to you, Haku. You're not helping yourself here.

Zenith covers that pretty well.

[ShadoWolfe]

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The tell is the form of which Aryxi defends himself when pressured. He always uses the same manner, style, mannerisms, tone, and almost words when he's town-aligned and being attacked. It's such a bad tell and yet, it's been decisive so many times already for Aryxi that I'm able to say the slot (at that time because I have no idea what Haku is doing right now) was town-aligned.

I'm going to go check every turbo he's played in to confirm this right now. Mind pulling up where you and AA referenced this exact tell in this thread? Because I don't recall this occurring.

[YoshL]

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For me; it's between Pazzaz/ShadoWolfe/Andy-o24.

It could be an orchestrated setup with 2 players too, but I don't want to go there today.

It's not Pazzaz.

I believe his claim is legit, and he said he bussed 2 players, AA, and Charu - 2 townspeople.

I'm worried right now because the current turn of events was dfr getting pressure from AA and MML (i think, still hav en't reread) and AA getting day vig'd.

I want to say the most likely person to do that is dfr at the moment, but it seems so fucking easy.

NOOOOOO, why did he have too die!!!!??? He was the only confirmed town for me and he goes and dies.
It's also pretty bad now that this doesn't even prove that I'm town. Why couldn't you have killed me???!!!!

if only this reaction wasn't god awful forced feeling, i wouldn't be willing to look at pazz

second suspicion falls to shadowolfe for overreaction:

Also, look at everyone. There's 17 players left, and we haven't found a single fucking scum. If you're town, you have to be looking at everyone or you're only helping us lose.

I'm not exactly sure why you're adopting such an alarmist point of view.

17/20 players is about equivalent to 11/13 players, or one day phase of a normal 13 person setup assuming 3 wolves. Like, you seem to be blowing the urgency of the situation out of proportion to make it look like you're in a more desperate haze trying to scumhunt, but all you're really doing is not actually reading people. you've said "if you are town" to multiple players like, telling them to play better but not actually scumhunting at all?

final suspicion is haku.
instant fixation onto "gunsmith" throws up major alarm bells, given that according to the OP, items are on. Noting the other reactions that people gave to AA being day-vig'd, literally the only person that seemed to be primed to think of items was Haku, and I'd daresay that it's surprising given the intelligence of mechanical play and setup understanding he's shown in the past

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

omfg there goes our most active poster.

awesome.

so there's guns in this game?

awesome.

i take that back, shadowolfe immediately jumped into the notion of guns

[MixMasterLar]

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Is there anything that proves he's a confirmed town?

Ok, I've been thinking about the consequences of what I'm about to say, I hope this provides clarity. I thought about keeping this a secret but I will have to say this before the EOD incase I die so here's the truth.
I couldn't speak D0 but instead I received the ability to switch the positions of two people at the beginning of N1. I switched AragakiAyase and Charu. This is why several people reacted weird, they thought AA was gonna die or atleast not that Charu was gonna die. So if I die as town, AA is confirmed town (or the wolves tried to kill one of their own lol).

TL;DR AragakiAyase IS CONFIRMED TOWN FOR ME

From now on I'm normal townie and will be scumhunting. I'll post my thoughts about everyone later.

Now I know taken at face value it doesn't mean much, but think about it rreeeeaaaallyyy hard and it's very unlikely that Pazz is lying. Give me a scenario where Pazz is lying, wolves still kill Charu for shits and giggles, and someone who was in the dhajddfasfefdf I am trying so fucking hard not to get modkilled for angle shooting right now but seriously put some thought into it: he's really close to being confirmed.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Maybe he's saying the truth, but he's not town aligned?

[MixMasterLar]

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if only this reaction wasn't god awful forced feeling, i wouldn't be willing to look at pazz

I noticed that but if Clix (was it Clix that Charu was bodyguard?) taught me anything is that you gotta believe the mechanical aspect of the game more then tone/shitty posts.

I think Paz is safely off the table. Or has really big balls.

[ShadoWolfe]

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second suspicion falls to shadowolfe for overreaction:



I'm not exactly sure why you're adopting such an alarmist point of view.

If I could adequately describe to you the sense of loss and frustration I felt after having had my post be ninja'd by "AA was found dead", I would. As it is, you'll have to understand that it was beyond words.

you've said "if you are town" to multiple players like, telling them to play better but not actually scumhunting at all?

I said "if you're town" to one player, and that was andy. Also, define scumhunting, because I'd argue that that is exactly what my push on Haku constitutes.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Maybe he's saying the truth, but he's not town aligned?

There's no way he has that Bus power and the ability to use arrows/got an item.

Not unless you can gift items somehow, but that's a really unlikely scenario as whoever got that item probably would have used it themselves

And I mean he swapped 2 townfolks. Why would a wolf swap two townfolks? To clear himself?

That's such a far fetched idea and considering you're throwing out excuses without much thought, floundering around trying to clear your name, I'd imagine the likelier story is you did.


Vote stands and will likely stay unless Haku convinces me otherwise.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

So, why are you reading me scum? That could be helpful.

Why aren't you considering that Pazzaz could be a possibility?

What does my game looks like to you?

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

There's no way he has that Bus power and the ability to use arrows/got an item.

It's really as simple as "not being able to post d0 (can even lie about d0) + ability to swap targets."

Not unless you can gift items somehow, but that's a really unlikely scenario as whoever got that item probably would have used it themselves

Items: On (Items cannot be passed from one player to another)

^ You can't gift items.

And I mean he swapped 2 townfolks. Why would a wolf swap two townfolks? To clear himself?

That's such a far fetched idea and considering you're throwing out excuses without much thought, floundering around trying to clear your name, I'd imagine the likelier story is you did.


Vote stands and will likely stay unless Haku convinces me otherwise.

Pazzaz being a possibility =/= clearing Haku.