ATTN: Active FFR Players/Community

[Rapta]

Re: ATTN: Active FFR Players/Community

This is a great implementation. Good work guys.

I went to Osu multiplayer three weeks ago and haven't played FFR since. I think I will come back either when I have the skills to help innovate the site or until FFR is more popular, or nostalgia. It's no fun playing alone these days. With Osu (which has many people better than me) it's also good motivation to get better.

[MinaciousGrace]

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hop to it guys your experience judging simfiles on ffr will prepare you for real world experiences such as reviewing papers for academic publications

[MinaciousGrace]

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you might think i'm joking but the two activities both on an individual scale and a macro level have a lot in common

[MinaciousGrace]

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although i am joking about the reviewing academic papers part being a real world experience nobody actually reviews anything

[sickufully]

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I've noticed a few people have said they are unsure of how to evaluate the file or feel their input won't help in any way. Or if there is some terminology that we need to be aware of? Cause I want to view/play and leave feedback but I'm unsure of what you guys are looking for.

Is there any chance of some example feedback? (maybe of a song that's well known and already in-game)

Like are you looking for, 'I really liked the staircase at 1:37-1:42. Also the trills at the end.'
OR
are we supposed to say things about the syncing, the right notes used, density, lack of notes, the song itself (?), etc.?

Because I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't know much about half of that stuff. I can tell you that a file is fun or that I'm not a fan of a particular file (which are both just my opinion) but is that going to help?

[Wayward Vagabond]

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That's a terrible example. No one really likes staircases

[sickufully]

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Guess I have an unpopular opinion then.

[XelNya]

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On the threads topic: I was interested when it first came out but I personally feel my words won't influence any sort of motion towards the effort of judgement

There's a lot of information to be tapped into by letting players reviews the files. Needless to say, even if your only comments are just on how the file plays to you:

It can be super fucking useful you have NO idea, Some of us can't even pass our own creations. (I still have yet to ever pass my Suwa file.)

The only real rule is that you be constructive. If you're doing that, don't worry if you think your phrasing is bad. Just do your best. Really.

I should probably try again sometime soon. I haven't posted anything because I couldn't keep it positive enough.

[psychoangel691]

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I've noticed a few people have said they are unsure of how to evaluate the file or feel their input won't help in any way. Or if there is some terminology that we need to be aware of? Cause I want to view/play and leave feedback but I'm unsure of what you guys are looking for.

Is there any chance of some example feedback? (maybe of a song that's well known and already in-game)

Like are you looking for, 'I really liked the staircase at 1:37-1:42. Also the trills at the end.'
OR
are we supposed to say things about the syncing, the right notes used, density, lack of notes, the song itself (?), etc.?

Because I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't know much about half of that stuff. I can tell you that a file is fun or that I'm not a fan of a particular file (which are both just my opinion) but is that going to help?

There is no special format or terminology that needs to be used. Just try to make sure you explain in a way that the file's creator knows what you're saying.

[rushyrulz]

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I have been suggesting a few things for a while that I've been dying to see implemented that have more than a couple different applications:

The overarching suggestion:
Implement a 5 or 10 star rating system in-engine for stepfiles and incentivize rating files with credits or other rewards. (Available to full song completions only...)

How it could be applied to this system to make it better:
OK, first off, is it at all possible to integrate the batch search engine into the FFR website? It's a freaking awesome project and I think you would get more eyes and more interest if it were hosted on the main site.

Second off, is it at all possible to host the entire submission queue on FFR instead of a different engine? Scores would have to uniquely record, but not be traceable through levelranks or leaderboards.

If the BSE can be hosted on the main site, it wouldn't be a large task to implement a comment/review section for each file and host those there instead of threads. Also, the star-rating system can report to the BSE and give an average rating for any given file. This gives people the opportunity to give files a first-impression rating as well as go and leave additional comments in the BSE if they want (maybe put a "review this file" button in-engine as well that links out to the comments section of that particular file in the BSE?). A lot of this, of course, hinges on everything being kept in the same place. If we keep things close to home, I think it will be a better experience for all of us.

[DossarLX ODI]

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The overarching suggestion:
Implement a 5 or 10 star rating system in-engine for stepfiles and incentivize rating files with credits or other rewards. (Available to full song completions only...)

I haven't worked with the engine source, so I'm not sure how this would be implemented.

OK, first off, is it at all possible to integrate the batch search engine into the FFR website? It's a freaking awesome project and I think you would get more eyes and more interest if it were hosted on the main site.

Last week I mentioned the issues about configuration when trying to set up the site on FFR itself. Velocity helped me with getting the site running for the overview pages, but when it came to the unique pages (such as the OT Batch page, song page for 0x69, whatever) the site didn't work. This is why I had to move to a new domain, Velocity has experienced many of the configuration limitations this site has.

Second off, is it at all possible to host the entire submission queue on FFR instead of a different engine? Scores would have to uniquely record, but not be traceable through levelranks or leaderboards.

Are you requesting a separate genre in the game engine?

While many of these suggestions are nice for sparking up discussion, we already have a proper system set up for users to leave their comments on the files. Sure, it may require reading a couple more threads, but the resources are there and if there are any questions then users are welcome to ask.

[rushyrulz]

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Are you requesting a separate genre in the game engine?

Yes, but only if the other integrations can be made.

[MarioNintendo]

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Last week I mentioned the issues about configuration when trying to set up the site on FFR itself. Velocity helped me with getting the site running for the overview pages, but when it came to the unique pages (such as the OT Batch page, song page for 0x69, whatever) the site didn't work. This is why I had to move to a new domain, Velocity has experienced many of the configuration limitations this site has.

How about the batch engine search stays outside of the main flashflashrevolution.com domain, but is accessible from a main link in FFR's front page or something like that (instead of just inside a forum post)?

[rushyrulz]

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Yes, yes, excellent..