TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[storn42]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

even though this is technically anti-town I agree because autowin is boring

agreed

[YoshL]

Votes from post 1 to post 461
Night in 29:48:16
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- Xiz -- rzr (40), Xiz (37)
• 1 -- Vendetta21 -- AragakiAyase (51)
• 1 -- rzr -- dLGN (96)
• 1 -- dLGN -- storn42 (9)
• 1 -- unvote -- DaBackpack (52)
• 7 -- not voting -- botchi246 (10), Gradiant (27), roundbox (9), Tokzic (10), Vendetta21 (0), XelNya (50), Charu (67)

A couple clarifications and stuff

A frozen homeless person cannot receive a seering.
A frozen homeless person will be notified that they were frozen in the night.
There's a slight rule change -> Wolves will be able to hide in any room. If they hide in the AC control room, they will also be able to make the freeze happen

[Vendetta21]

tokzic

[Xiz]

oh woops my vote is on myself
rzr

[AragakiAyase]

oh there he is

unvote

[storn42]

Originally Posted by YoshL

Votes from post 1 to post 461
Night in 29:48:16
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- Xiz -- rzr (40), Xiz (37)
• 1 -- Vendetta21 -- AragakiAyase (51)
• 1 -- rzr -- dLGN (96)
• 1 -- dLGN -- storn42 (9)
• 1 -- unvote -- DaBackpack (52)
• 7 -- not voting -- botchi246 (10), Gradiant (27), roundbox (9), Tokzic (10), Vendetta21 (0), XelNya (50), Charu (67)

A couple clarifications and stuff

A frozen homeless person cannot receive a seering.
A frozen homeless person will be notified that they were frozen in the night.
There's a slight rule change -> Wolves will be able to hide in any room. If they hide in the AC control room, they will also be able to make the freeze happen

does this mean things like being able to hide in the security room or the bathrooms so that town cant use them?

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by storn42

does this mean things like being able to hide in the security room or the bathrooms so that town cant use them?

yes, and it also means that they can accidentally freeze themselves if they're not careful

[Xiz]

nobody has sent me any private messages this game yet and im sad

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by YoshL

yes, and it also means that they can accidentally freeze themselves if they're not careful

lmfao that would be something to see

[dLGN]

back. well, now that mafia can visit rooms things change. trying to decide what this means for the idea I had.

[dLGN]

I think I will just outline general strategy and then we can decide what to do

[Vendetta21]

Hey someone else vote tokzic please

[Vendetta21]

i intend to use the kidz zone tonight

please do not use the IMAX theatre until the movie stalker flips, and then we all use it at once

[Vendetta21]

we should vote in blue for who we think should be the one to use the seering station tonight

xiz

[Vendetta21]

i have joined the slack

[AragakiAyase]

ok

toxzic

[dLGN]

Going into the night there will be 12 players. Let's assume the worst with 9 town and 3 mafia. 1 mafia will be in the theatre, one will be in the AC control room, and 1 can now move around at will.

The idea was basically to mandate the following:

3 go to the bathrooms, causing them to overflow. If this happened, you have 3 clear villagers. However, if 1 of those 3 told to go there were mafia and could not visit, the bathrooms would not overflow in the morning and you would have one mafia between those 3.

One goes to the Kidz Zone.

One goes to the SB and gets a check to be used on someone, either the person sent to the Kidz Zone (to ensure an alive check) or one of the exhibits. Can use OOTT and night chat to ensure people go where they say and show up in the right place with this check when determining its authenticity the next day.

3 are told to go to the main hall. If all 3 are mafia, none die, gg. If 2 are mafia and one is town, only one person would attend the hall and half of one rounded up is one, the town dies and you have 2 question marks to decide on. The reason they are question marks and not outright mafia is in the case only one of the three are mafia. Then you have half of 2 rounded up - still one death, and one surviving town. You have to decide which of these two cases happen if only one of the three die. Finally if 0 of the three are mafia then half of 3, rounded up, ie 2, die and you are left with one confirmed town in the morning.

You can use the Movie Theatre the same way. Certain people are told to go to the theatre. At most one will die. Crosscheck how many people were told to go against how many people are reported to have "attended" from the mod the next day. If there is a discrepancy then you have a mafia in this group. Easiest to work with 2 (1 dies 1 confirmed town) or 3 (1 dies and either 2 town or a mafia and a town). Any more than that and the usefulness of knowing you have one mafia in X number of people goes down.

The rest go to exhibits. Each person gets told to go to an exhibit and also knows where one other exhibit atendee should be. This way the person who goes to the Security Booth has to out their check and then the people sent to exhbits can confirm that the person was spotted in the correct place.

High risk high reward. Potentially 2 die in the main hall, potentially one in the exhibits, and potentially one if the movie theatre is used. You could be left, at worst, with 8 players tomorrow, 5 town 3 mafia. But you would have clears and limited POE to lynch from. The game would be won or lost within 2 or 3 days.

[Gradiant]

Phone posting horrible
xiz
Your play right now is strongly reminding me of the game i previously mentioned and i dont like it.
Still dont like dlgn but not raising as much of a flag for me as xiz.
Work breaks over, ill be back home 7pm ish server time

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

You can use the Movie Theatre the same way. Certain people are told to go to the theatre. At most one will die. Crosscheck how many people were told to go against how many people are reported to have "attended" from the mod the next day. If there is a discrepancy then you have a mafia in this group. Easiest to work with 2 (1 dies 1 confirmed town) or 3 (1 dies and either 2 town or a mafia and a town). Any more than that and the usefulness of knowing you have one mafia in X number of people goes down.

there are tons of flaws in this plan but there's one that sticks out: the number of attendees IGNORES ALIGNMENT

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

there are tons of flaws in this plan but there's one that sticks out: the number of attendees IGNORES ALIGNMENT

incorrect, but i won't say why