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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #16
    Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

    Velocity engine is far from beta now and is publicly usable by anyone that isn't a Veteran (and has been for quite some time), unlike R^2 which has been pretty much deprecated as a newer engine and has been traded off for work on R^3. R^2 would likely be public if Velocity wanted to remove the Veteran authentication, but that's entirely up to hime.

    Profile chat did get things, but as you said, you don't visit it. This goes back to my point of it not affecting people. Complaining about VC not being coded won't make it come back, and contrary to what you might think, creating a new VC takes a ton of work. They can't pull the old code from the backend out of the previous Video Chat, otherwise it would have been up and running a long time ago. You (and others like you who are so impatient about the whole VC thing) need to wait rather than being sarcastic about it not being back.

    The replay image is an actual release because it is a site function that staff can use to regulate scoring. Just because you can't access it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, and again, it goes back to the "you don't care because it doesn't affect you" note. Just because you have a hard time caring about things that don't affect you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    Also, people mentioned that there was no new content, but songs being released and becoming playable for the public and viewable by everyone for the first time does by definition mean that it's "new". The official tournaments being playable on a specific date without any old content supplementing it makes it a "new" official tournament.
    Last edited by TC_Halogen; 09-21-2012, 05:50 PM.

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    • Rebirth0
      FFR Originalbro
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2003
      • 8751

      #17
      Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

      The only thing I really care about is the amount of activity on the site. We're about 1/4 as active as we were in 2006 - 2008.

      There are many things that have changed for the better since then, but I still miss how active the site was.

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      • Zageron
        Zageron E. Tazaterra
        FFR Administrator
        • Apr 2007
        • 6592

        #18
        Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

        I'm not saying that people should expect any new things coming out in regard to SIU, but you should expect to see some new things coming out in regard to SIU.

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        • Pseudo Enigma
          ごめんなさい (/ω\)
          • Aug 2012
          • 2290

          #19
          Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          Velocity engine is far from beta now and is publicly usable by anyone that isn't a Veteran (and has been for quite some time), unlike R^2 which has been pretty much deprecated as a newer engine and has been traded off for work on R^3. R^2 would likely be public if Velocity wanted to remove the Veteran authentication, but that's entirely up to hime.
          No, it is not far from Beta purely because it is still called "FFR the Beta." True it's like FFRV2, but it's still Beta in my eyes since it really doesn't have that vibe of "I'm all done, ready to go, and there are no bugs alongside me!"

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          Profile chat did get things, but as you said, you don't visit it. This goes back to my point of it not affecting people. Complaining about VC not being coded won't make it come back, and contrary to what you might think, creating a new VC takes a ton of work. They can't pull the old code from the backend out of the previous Video Chat, otherwise it would have been up and running a long time ago. You (and others like you who are so impatient about the whole VC thing) need to wait rather than being sarcastic about it not being back.
          Now you're just assuming things that I never said, and I don't like that. I never said that they could just take the code and butcher it into place. I never said they could do it in a heartbeat or that it's the easiest thing ever.

          I purely said

          And repairs to make things work again isn't even complete either
          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          The replay image is an actual release because it is a site function that staff can use to regulate scoring. Just because you can't access it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, and again, it goes back to the "you don't care because it doesn't affect you" note. Just because you have a hard time caring about things that don't affect you doesn't mean that they don't exist.

          Also, people mentioned that there was no new content, but songs being released and becoming playable for the public and viewable by everyone for the first time does by definition mean that it's "new". The official tournaments being playable on a specific date without any old content supplementing it makes it a "new" official tournament.
          True the staff can use it, but why not the players? I've been dying to see what I have been pressing wrong in the end stream of FREEDOM DiVE for example.

          Also, you're still not understanding the concept of new things. I meant things that never had existed, and are a new concept to the site. I can't really tell if you're trolling when you nitpick my paragraph for the one tiny flaw in it and say that the songs themselves are new. SOTW and Tournaments are not a new concept at all. Sure we get badass songs and tokens from them, and it's like 1.5 SOTWs for every round of a tournament, but that is not anything new since they've been in place since before the site went down.

          I'm not trying to bash FFR, and I love it here. In fact I love the fact that it came back instead of staying dead like it could have. My original point was even if nothing gets done with FFR I will still love it and be happy with it the way it is.

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          • Wayward Vagabond
            Confirmed Heartbreaker
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jul 2012
            • 5866

            #20
            Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

            bring back profile pets

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            • foxfire667
              The FFRchiver
              FFR Music Producer
              • Jun 2009
              • 2170

              #21
              Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

              Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
              True the staff can use it, but why not the players? I've been dying to see what I have been pressing wrong in the end stream of FREEDOM DiVE for example.
              Go to this thread for that. Save your replay and request for a replay to frame comparison, you see the exact same thing staff does when they send you the image.
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              • t-rogdor
                tane orb
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jun 2007
                • 2685

                #22
                Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                y'all ****ers crazy this site's way better than it used to be
                remember when tass was a mod and banned hi19 for a misunderstanding
                remember when you couldn't click on someone's profile without it blaring a bunch of shitty metalcore
                remember how 1/2 of the userbase just used profiles on this website as a myspace v2

                chill the hell out
                this place is fine
                Originally posted by cetaka
                I saw a flyer on a bulletin board at school asking for high-functioning aspergers/autism people to participate in some kind of experiment, and all I could think was, that sounds like a great place to meet girls.

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                • Pseudo Enigma
                  ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2290

                  #23
                  Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                  Originally posted by foxfire667
                  Go to this thread for that. Save your replay and request for a replay to frame comparison, you see the exact same thing staff does when they send you the image.
                  having to request for every last score I want to see because I like analyzing a lot of my plays is not exactly what I think would be a good idea. I don't see why the program used can't be released..

                  edit: mfw it's not a program.. how are they doing it?

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                  • Velocity
                    Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Administrator
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1819

                    #24
                    Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                    okay, I'm going to remove Beta for the velocity engine link. R^2 wasn't meant to be a released engine tbh, it was more of a test for idea's. One of which was the UI design, which not many liked.

                    Also, replay images weren't created for the sake of public viewing, they were a small side project I put together to look over valid looking replays to see if they were cheated or not.

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                    • TC_Halogen
                      Rhythm game specialist.
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19376

                      #25
                      Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                      Originally posted by t-rogdor
                      chill the hell out
                      this place is fine
                      ^^

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                      • Ohaider
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2893

                        #26
                        Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                        Do with whatcha got

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                        • foxfire667
                          The FFRchiver
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2170

                          #27
                          Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                          Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
                          having to request for every last score I want to see because I like analyzing a lot of my plays is not exactly what I think would be a good idea. I don't see why the program used can't be released..

                          edit: mfw it's not a program.. how are they doing it?
                          Request for multiple replays at once.

                          I wouldn't mind it being an engine feature, so you could view or save a replay analysis from a button in the results screen. Then it would be a lot more streamlined, and cut out the work of the middle man. Although yeah, it was originally created for staff to catch bots, so something like a public release might not happen.
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                          • Pseudo Enigma
                            ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2290

                            #28
                            Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                            Originally posted by Velocity
                            Also, replay images weren't created for the sake of public viewing, they were a small side project I put together to look over valid looking replays to see if they were cheated or not.
                            Alright. I'll respect that and leave it alone, since if you had any intention of releasing it to the public you would've just said so.

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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #29
                              Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                              Another reason why it might not be public is because they don't want even a small piece of code being viewable to be used against the anti-cheat. It's better under private eyes, to be honest.

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                              • krunkykai22
                                <3 Jumpstream <3
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 5436

                                #30
                                Re: I wish there was a way to revive the way this site used to be

                                I don't even ...

                                mfw people are satisfied with anything.

                                Seriously people, the fact is this site came from a small engine to the site it is nowadays (for those of you nostalgic people remember the original FFR Engine :P )
                                There are songs of the week being released all the time.
                                Official Tournaments being held as often as possible (even though we might need a new host next time *cough* krunky ban *cough*)
                                More tokens being released and achievable.
                                The list goes on and on and on.

                                If you want the traffic of the site to be what it was previously you're crazy. Simply crazy. I MUCH rather have the traffic the way it is now then have 13/14 year old "ashlynn stars" running around asking for a jail bait **** every now and then ..... now if they were 18 maybe but .... FFRadultfriendfinder.com LULZ

                                ANYYYYYYYYway.

                                Just kidding though seriously.

                                Leave the site the way it is and progress from within with what we have right NOW, not what we had back then. We are all part of the revival community and we are the basis for the continuation of what is to come for this site.

                                EDIT: And I'll say it for Velocity before he does:

                                KRUNKY SHUT THE **** UP

                                yes sir

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